UK switches on the world’s largest wind turbines
According to this a single revolution of the turbine can power a home for 29 hours. That’s pretty amazing.
Originally shared by Engadget
UK switches on the world’s largest wind turbines http://engt.co/2q5ZHFV
Another good reason to get rid of fossil carbon fuels as rapidly as possible.
sciencedaily.com – Traffic-related air pollution linked to DNA damage in children
Another good reason to get rid of fossil carbon fuels as rapidly as possible.
sciencedaily.com – Traffic-related air pollution linked to DNA damage in children
Another good reason to get rid of fossil carbon fuels as rapidly as possible.
sciencedaily.com – Traffic-related air pollution linked to DNA damage in children
I am a supporter of British Green power. I live in England UK ! Question what is a house for 29 hours 4 Bedrooms 2 beds or 3 beds could be a one bed house if it is in the UK so please talk British English not Danish American it gives a false impression of Greens.
I am a supporter of British Green power. I live in England UK ! Question what is a house for 29 hours 4 Bedrooms 2 beds or 3 beds could be a one bed house if it is in the UK so please talk British English not Danish American it gives a false impression of Greens.
I am a supporter of British Green power. I live in England UK ! Question what is a house for 29 hours 4 Bedrooms 2 beds or 3 beds could be a one bed house if it is in the UK so please talk British English not Danish American it gives a false impression of Greens.
Liam Duncan that’s a good question. I am in England as well and have seen some of the shoe boxes they expect people to live in. What is the average considered over here?
Liam Duncan that’s a good question. I am in England as well and have seen some of the shoe boxes they expect people to live in. What is the average considered over here?
Liam Duncan that’s a good question. I am in England as well and have seen some of the shoe boxes they expect people to live in. What is the average considered over here?
195m tower. 80m blades. 8MW rated power per turbine.
I wonder how many birds per hour this will kill. /s Seriously, I think the “turbines kill bird life” has been vastly overstated. But it’s damn hard to find credible studies and research.
195m tower. 80m blades. 8MW rated power per turbine.
I wonder how many birds per hour this will kill. /s Seriously, I think the “turbines kill bird life” has been vastly overstated. But it’s damn hard to find credible studies and research.
195m tower. 80m blades. 8MW rated power per turbine.
I wonder how many birds per hour this will kill. /s Seriously, I think the “turbines kill bird life” has been vastly overstated. But it’s damn hard to find credible studies and research.
Amazing!!
Amazing!!
Amazing!!
Julian Bond U.S. News and World Report compiled data on which energy industries are responsible for the most bird deaths in the US every year (https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/08/22/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds%29:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vfev9ILh9eY2dtza4ciLyP81bSK4vTh7C9zt3CAwlvc3lxOVxP2-k2yJzdtsFPIfPT7zSezxpfJyoYs=s0
Julian Bond U.S. News and World Report compiled data on which energy industries are responsible for the most bird deaths in the US every year (https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/08/22/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds%29:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vfev9ILh9eY2dtza4ciLyP81bSK4vTh7C9zt3CAwlvc3lxOVxP2-k2yJzdtsFPIfPT7zSezxpfJyoYs=s0
Julian Bond U.S. News and World Report compiled data on which energy industries are responsible for the most bird deaths in the US every year (https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/08/22/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds%29:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vfev9ILh9eY2dtza4ciLyP81bSK4vTh7C9zt3CAwlvc3lxOVxP2-k2yJzdtsFPIfPT7zSezxpfJyoYs=s0
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Julian Bond there are quite a lot of studies and estimates, and while they do show there are problems with wind power, they also show the industry and governments are learning and working to reduce bird and bat deaths. Surprisingly simple measures are having a great impact.
Even if the studies vary slightly in their estimates, they make it very clear that to birds wind power is a very small problem compared to other issues. Pollution from coal is by far killing the most birds, and other factors, such as windows and glass buildings, traffic, power lines, and domestic cats, are also magnitudes worse than wind turbines.
Julian Bond there are quite a lot of studies and estimates, and while they do show there are problems with wind power, they also show the industry and governments are learning and working to reduce bird and bat deaths. Surprisingly simple measures are having a great impact.
Even if the studies vary slightly in their estimates, they make it very clear that to birds wind power is a very small problem compared to other issues. Pollution from coal is by far killing the most birds, and other factors, such as windows and glass buildings, traffic, power lines, and domestic cats, are also magnitudes worse than wind turbines.
Julian Bond there are quite a lot of studies and estimates, and while they do show there are problems with wind power, they also show the industry and governments are learning and working to reduce bird and bat deaths. Surprisingly simple measures are having a great impact.
Even if the studies vary slightly in their estimates, they make it very clear that to birds wind power is a very small problem compared to other issues. Pollution from coal is by far killing the most birds, and other factors, such as windows and glass buildings, traffic, power lines, and domestic cats, are also magnitudes worse than wind turbines.
Per Siden When I said hard to find, this is what I’m talking about. That news report is almost content free. But it does link to this report.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006320713003522
That’s a meta study that points out how wide and uncertain the numbers are. And it’s about on-shore US wind turbines where the article above is about off-shore UK turbines.
At this point see also https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/20/scotland-birds-at-risk-windfarms-gannets-kittiwakes-puffins about objections to an off shore turbine array in Scotland from the UK RSPB.
I tend to agree that turbines are much much less of a problem than windows, coal, cats or many other things. I have this sneaking suspicion that they’re not a problem * at all *. But like I say more or less scientific proof of that from reputable, believable sources is very hard to come by.
Per Siden When I said hard to find, this is what I’m talking about. That news report is almost content free. But it does link to this report.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006320713003522
That’s a meta study that points out how wide and uncertain the numbers are. And it’s about on-shore US wind turbines where the article above is about off-shore UK turbines.
At this point see also https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/20/scotland-birds-at-risk-windfarms-gannets-kittiwakes-puffins about objections to an off shore turbine array in Scotland from the UK RSPB.
I tend to agree that turbines are much much less of a problem than windows, coal, cats or many other things. I have this sneaking suspicion that they’re not a problem * at all *. But like I say more or less scientific proof of that from reputable, believable sources is very hard to come by.
Per Siden When I said hard to find, this is what I’m talking about. That news report is almost content free. But it does link to this report.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006320713003522
That’s a meta study that points out how wide and uncertain the numbers are. And it’s about on-shore US wind turbines where the article above is about off-shore UK turbines.
At this point see also https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/20/scotland-birds-at-risk-windfarms-gannets-kittiwakes-puffins about objections to an off shore turbine array in Scotland from the UK RSPB.
I tend to agree that turbines are much much less of a problem than windows, coal, cats or many other things. I have this sneaking suspicion that they’re not a problem * at all *. But like I say more or less scientific proof of that from reputable, believable sources is very hard to come by.
Wind turbines do kill birds, but so do a lot of other human activities, including hunting and pollution. I suspect that birds will evolve to avoid areas that pose a danger. In the US, you cannot drive a mile without seeing road kill, but no one is talking about banning cars and trucks.
sciencedaily.com – Wind turbines killing more than just local birds
Wind turbines do kill birds, but so do a lot of other human activities, including hunting and pollution. I suspect that birds will evolve to avoid areas that pose a danger. In the US, you cannot drive a mile without seeing road kill, but no one is talking about banning cars and trucks.
sciencedaily.com – Wind turbines killing more than just local birds
Wind turbines do kill birds, but so do a lot of other human activities, including hunting and pollution. I suspect that birds will evolve to avoid areas that pose a danger. In the US, you cannot drive a mile without seeing road kill, but no one is talking about banning cars and trucks.
sciencedaily.com – Wind turbines killing more than just local birds
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that more birds are killed by automobiles than wind turbines. As far as arguments against wind turbines go, it is ‘an’ argument, but it has by no means been proven to be a ‘good’ argument. It’s the sort of thing the oil and gas lobby throw out into the stratosphere to confuse the public, like when they said that electric cars were more polluting than diesel, because of the particulates coming off of the tyres due to the car’s weight…
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that more birds are killed by automobiles than wind turbines. As far as arguments against wind turbines go, it is ‘an’ argument, but it has by no means been proven to be a ‘good’ argument. It’s the sort of thing the oil and gas lobby throw out into the stratosphere to confuse the public, like when they said that electric cars were more polluting than diesel, because of the particulates coming off of the tyres due to the car’s weight…
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that more birds are killed by automobiles than wind turbines. As far as arguments against wind turbines go, it is ‘an’ argument, but it has by no means been proven to be a ‘good’ argument. It’s the sort of thing the oil and gas lobby throw out into the stratosphere to confuse the public, like when they said that electric cars were more polluting than diesel, because of the particulates coming off of the tyres due to the car’s weight…
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The argument isn’t “let’s adopt the perfect energy solution” .. that doesn’t exist. It’s the comparison of impact across the board, and in that respect wind power is a vital part of the energy mix along with other renewables and research and development in power storage which without, we’ll have to always have some form of non renewable to deal with peaks and troffs.
It’s a great step in the right direction, it’s a shame we (the UK) don’t have a government that supports it.
The argument isn’t “let’s adopt the perfect energy solution” .. that doesn’t exist. It’s the comparison of impact across the board, and in that respect wind power is a vital part of the energy mix along with other renewables and research and development in power storage which without, we’ll have to always have some form of non renewable to deal with peaks and troffs.
It’s a great step in the right direction, it’s a shame we (the UK) don’t have a government that supports it.
The argument isn’t “let’s adopt the perfect energy solution” .. that doesn’t exist. It’s the comparison of impact across the board, and in that respect wind power is a vital part of the energy mix along with other renewables and research and development in power storage which without, we’ll have to always have some form of non renewable to deal with peaks and troffs.
It’s a great step in the right direction, it’s a shame we (the UK) don’t have a government that supports it.
Julian Bond Plant a tree for every turbine built :-)
Seriously though, if it’s really a problem, perhaps there could be a way to deter birds from coming too near? (E.g. High frequency sound or something that effects their magnetic compass…)
Bird deaths (presumably via collisions) shouldn’t be a reason not to build turbines but to work with ornithologists to innovate a solution somehow by thinking laterally.
As an aside I think it’s strangely hypocritical to care about seagull deaths yet happily farm chickens!
Julian Bond Plant a tree for every turbine built :-)
Seriously though, if it’s really a problem, perhaps there could be a way to deter birds from coming too near? (E.g. High frequency sound or something that effects their magnetic compass…)
Bird deaths (presumably via collisions) shouldn’t be a reason not to build turbines but to work with ornithologists to innovate a solution somehow by thinking laterally.
As an aside I think it’s strangely hypocritical to care about seagull deaths yet happily farm chickens!
Julian Bond Plant a tree for every turbine built :-)
Seriously though, if it’s really a problem, perhaps there could be a way to deter birds from coming too near? (E.g. High frequency sound or something that effects their magnetic compass…)
Bird deaths (presumably via collisions) shouldn’t be a reason not to build turbines but to work with ornithologists to innovate a solution somehow by thinking laterally.
As an aside I think it’s strangely hypocritical to care about seagull deaths yet happily farm chickens!
ข้อดีคือ เราได้พลังงานสอาดและกำจัดนก
ข้อเสียคือ เราไม่ศึกษาว่า นกบินสูงกว่ากังหันลม แต่ชอบกังหันลม
ข้อดีคือ เราได้พลังงานสอาดและกำจัดนก
ข้อเสียคือ เราไม่ศึกษาว่า นกบินสูงกว่ากังหันลม แต่ชอบกังหันลม
ข้อดีคือ เราได้พลังงานสอาดและกำจัดนก
ข้อเสียคือ เราไม่ศึกษาว่า นกบินสูงกว่ากังหันลม แต่ชอบกังหันลม
Loads of research has occurred looking into the issue of Birds (and other species) getting hit by turbines.
mnn.com – 6 ways to protect bats and birds from wind turbines
Some interesting stats in this article !! puts the problem into context, although I don’t think it excuses it, just comments like above (birds or clean power) are false choices.
Loads of research has occurred looking into the issue of Birds (and other species) getting hit by turbines.
mnn.com – 6 ways to protect bats and birds from wind turbines
Some interesting stats in this article !! puts the problem into context, although I don’t think it excuses it, just comments like above (birds or clean power) are false choices.
Loads of research has occurred looking into the issue of Birds (and other species) getting hit by turbines.
mnn.com – 6 ways to protect bats and birds from wind turbines
Some interesting stats in this article !! puts the problem into context, although I don’t think it excuses it, just comments like above (birds or clean power) are false choices.
TheShreester I’ve been following Swedish official studies on the effect of wind plants on birds and bats. The conclusion so far is that wind turbines are a more severe problem for bats than for birds, but in both cases there are effective remedies.
The main finding is that it’s important to survey areas properly before selecting sites for wind farms. You wouldn’t want eagles, king fishers or other rare predator birds to be affected, so better avoid locations where they nest for example. Knowing the habitat also means type and operation mode of wind turbines can be chosen accordingly. For example, in areas with bats it appears that idling the turbines when the wind is particularly weak, during a certain month of the year, almost entirely eliminate the problem of killing bats.
The newer generation of larger, slower turning, turbines appear to be much less dangerous to birds than the older, smaller ones, with blades that turn faster. This is good news, because turbines are getting bigger all the time. There are also indications that painting the turbines in different colors may be effective, but those tests are still in progress. Another test in progress is deterring sounds whenever large birds are approaching.
Also promising is that it appears that after a couple of years migrating birds learn to avoid offshore wind parks that have been constructed in their regular flight paths.
There’s more to be done, but clearly avoiding locations where large predator birds nest, and sites with lots of bats, seem to be most important, and luckily it’s also a simple remedy. Following up new wind farms, and adapting the operation if there are bird casualties appears to be a good remedy.
We learn, all the time, and improve.
TheShreester I’ve been following Swedish official studies on the effect of wind plants on birds and bats. The conclusion so far is that wind turbines are a more severe problem for bats than for birds, but in both cases there are effective remedies.
The main finding is that it’s important to survey areas properly before selecting sites for wind farms. You wouldn’t want eagles, king fishers or other rare predator birds to be affected, so better avoid locations where they nest for example. Knowing the habitat also means type and operation mode of wind turbines can be chosen accordingly. For example, in areas with bats it appears that idling the turbines when the wind is particularly weak, during a certain month of the year, almost entirely eliminate the problem of killing bats.
The newer generation of larger, slower turning, turbines appear to be much less dangerous to birds than the older, smaller ones, with blades that turn faster. This is good news, because turbines are getting bigger all the time. There are also indications that painting the turbines in different colors may be effective, but those tests are still in progress. Another test in progress is deterring sounds whenever large birds are approaching.
Also promising is that it appears that after a couple of years migrating birds learn to avoid offshore wind parks that have been constructed in their regular flight paths.
There’s more to be done, but clearly avoiding locations where large predator birds nest, and sites with lots of bats, seem to be most important, and luckily it’s also a simple remedy. Following up new wind farms, and adapting the operation if there are bird casualties appears to be a good remedy.
We learn, all the time, and improve.
TheShreester I’ve been following Swedish official studies on the effect of wind plants on birds and bats. The conclusion so far is that wind turbines are a more severe problem for bats than for birds, but in both cases there are effective remedies.
The main finding is that it’s important to survey areas properly before selecting sites for wind farms. You wouldn’t want eagles, king fishers or other rare predator birds to be affected, so better avoid locations where they nest for example. Knowing the habitat also means type and operation mode of wind turbines can be chosen accordingly. For example, in areas with bats it appears that idling the turbines when the wind is particularly weak, during a certain month of the year, almost entirely eliminate the problem of killing bats.
The newer generation of larger, slower turning, turbines appear to be much less dangerous to birds than the older, smaller ones, with blades that turn faster. This is good news, because turbines are getting bigger all the time. There are also indications that painting the turbines in different colors may be effective, but those tests are still in progress. Another test in progress is deterring sounds whenever large birds are approaching.
Also promising is that it appears that after a couple of years migrating birds learn to avoid offshore wind parks that have been constructed in their regular flight paths.
There’s more to be done, but clearly avoiding locations where large predator birds nest, and sites with lots of bats, seem to be most important, and luckily it’s also a simple remedy. Following up new wind farms, and adapting the operation if there are bird casualties appears to be a good remedy.
We learn, all the time, and improve.
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แต่บางที สายพัฒนาการ และ วิวัฒน์นาการ ก็สวนทางกัน ครับ!
Francis Anderson ขอบคุณนะครับกับข้อมูลดีๆ
แต่บางที สายพัฒนาการ และ วิวัฒน์นาการ ก็สวนทางกัน ครับ!
Francis Anderson ขอบคุณนะครับกับข้อมูลดีๆ
แต่บางที สายพัฒนาการ และ วิวัฒน์นาการ ก็สวนทางกัน ครับ!
Per Siden
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ขอบคุณนะครับ ที่มีการศึกษาและวิจัย ปัญหาใดๆย่อมเกิดผลกระทบ ครับผ้ม การแก้ปัญหาคือหนทางในการพัฒนา และ “ขอโทษนะครับ” ที่ใช้ภาษาไทย(Thailand’s)
ขอบคุณนะครับ ยินดีที่ได้พูดคุย!
Per Siden
ขอบคุณนะครับ ที่มีการศึกษาและวิจัย ปัญหาใดๆย่อมเกิดผลกระทบ ครับผ้ม การแก้ปัญหาคือหนทางในการพัฒนา และ “ขอโทษนะครับ” ที่ใช้ภาษาไทย(Thailand’s)
ขอบคุณนะครับ ยินดีที่ได้พูดคุย!
US has the biggest blowhard. UK has the biggest wind turbines. I see an asymmetry!
US has the biggest blowhard. UK has the biggest wind turbines. I see an asymmetry!
US has the biggest blowhard. UK has the biggest wind turbines. I see an asymmetry!
When all is said and done a lot is being said but how much is being DONE? I am enjoying this discussion and the data being put forward. Unfortunately, birds and wildlife have already suffered the fate of land clearing and loss of habitat. Yes, we do need to think about the numbers left and how to go about protecting them. As usual, it is often too late for many species in the grand scheme of the web of life.
When all is said and done a lot is being said but how much is being DONE? I am enjoying this discussion and the data being put forward. Unfortunately, birds and wildlife have already suffered the fate of land clearing and loss of habitat. Yes, we do need to think about the numbers left and how to go about protecting them. As usual, it is often too late for many species in the grand scheme of the web of life.
When all is said and done a lot is being said but how much is being DONE? I am enjoying this discussion and the data being put forward. Unfortunately, birds and wildlife have already suffered the fate of land clearing and loss of habitat. Yes, we do need to think about the numbers left and how to go about protecting them. As usual, it is often too late for many species in the grand scheme of the web of life.
Don’t worry about the birds. They’ll learn to avoid that wind turbine fàrm. What’s important is the good thing that this wind turbines will do to nature and human beings.
Don’t worry about the birds. They’ll learn to avoid that wind turbine fàrm. What’s important is the good thing that this wind turbines will do to nature and human beings.
Don’t worry about the birds. They’ll learn to avoid that wind turbine fàrm. What’s important is the good thing that this wind turbines will do to nature and human beings.
I hope Low-Wind Turbines arent forgotten
I hope Low-Wind Turbines arent forgotten
I hope Low-Wind Turbines arent forgotten
Filinto Rodrigues you should read this. It goes into lots of detail about wind turbines, including supposed low cut in speed. solacity.com – The Truth About Small Wind Turbines – Solacity Inc.
Filinto Rodrigues you should read this. It goes into lots of detail about wind turbines, including supposed low cut in speed. solacity.com – The Truth About Small Wind Turbines – Solacity Inc.
Filinto Rodrigues you should read this. It goes into lots of detail about wind turbines, including supposed low cut in speed. solacity.com – The Truth About Small Wind Turbines – Solacity Inc.
That’s big!
That’s big!
That’s big!
I agree with you Alan…..”one single turbine revolution can power one home
for 29 hours”…..we need more in offshore where the wind is.
I agree with you Alan…..”one single turbine revolution can power one home
for 29 hours”…..we need more in offshore where the wind is.
I agree with you Alan…..”one single turbine revolution can power one home
for 29 hours”…..we need more in offshore where the wind is.
It’s a good idea, going to feature
It’s a good idea, going to feature
It’s a good idea, going to feature
That is great! Too bad the US has been thrown back into the stone age with the current subhuman president.
That is great! Too bad the US has been thrown back into the stone age with the current subhuman president.
That is great! Too bad the US has been thrown back into the stone age with the current subhuman president.
it is indeed great…..
it is indeed great…..
it is indeed great…..
That is the way to go especially these days with this climate change.
That is the way to go especially these days with this climate change.
That is the way to go especially these days with this climate change.
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