A solar flare and the whole thing shuts down and plummets to the ground. The aviation companies should be more worried about isolating their planes from such disturbances but once again, its more about the how economic and pretty it is. I know its difficult to see how precious each of us are in a world of billions but please, do try… just try.
A solar flare and the whole thing shuts down and plummets to the ground. The aviation companies should be more worried about isolating their planes from such disturbances but once again, its more about the how economic and pretty it is. I know its difficult to see how precious each of us are in a world of billions but please, do try… just try.
A solar flare and the whole thing shuts down and plummets to the ground. The aviation companies should be more worried about isolating their planes from such disturbances but once again, its more about the how economic and pretty it is. I know its difficult to see how precious each of us are in a world of billions but please, do try… just try.
Seriously, solar flares? Of all things that’s what you worry about? Low level radiation really isn’t that big of a deal to humans and shielded electronics. A huge long term study done on Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors shows that we are very capable of handling even large radiation doses without too much consequence.
Seriously, solar flares? Of all things that’s what you worry about? Low level radiation really isn’t that big of a deal to humans and shielded electronics. A huge long term study done on Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors shows that we are very capable of handling even large radiation doses without too much consequence.
Seriously, solar flares? Of all things that’s what you worry about? Low level radiation really isn’t that big of a deal to humans and shielded electronics. A huge long term study done on Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors shows that we are very capable of handling even large radiation doses without too much consequence.
Your mutant sons will glow in the dark, yupiiiii. Now seriously, prolonged exposure to radiation can have serious effects on your health, you know that. You give these companies a hand, they will take an arm; you also know that. Have you seen the latest video of the guy drag out of the plane? It could always be worse.
Your mutant sons will glow in the dark, yupiiiii. Now seriously, prolonged exposure to radiation can have serious effects on your health, you know that. You give these companies a hand, they will take an arm; you also know that. Have you seen the latest video of the guy drag out of the plane? It could always be worse.
Your mutant sons will glow in the dark, yupiiiii. Now seriously, prolonged exposure to radiation can have serious effects on your health, you know that. You give these companies a hand, they will take an arm; you also know that. Have you seen the latest video of the guy drag out of the plane? It could always be worse.
Ana, we’re constantly exposed to radiation and all life has been in this situation for billions of years. Our DNA is very capable of doing error corrections. Highly charged particles from solar winds are a concern but it’s not like flight crews are all glowing in the dark are they? They’re not getting cancer more than other people either.
Here’s another metric: do you know that the total amount of deaths caused by all nuclear accidents all over the planet, in all our history, is lower than the amount of deaths caused by the explosion of the Piper Alpha oil rig?
Ana, we’re constantly exposed to radiation and all life has been in this situation for billions of years. Our DNA is very capable of doing error corrections. Highly charged particles from solar winds are a concern but it’s not like flight crews are all glowing in the dark are they? They’re not getting cancer more than other people either.
Here’s another metric: do you know that the total amount of deaths caused by all nuclear accidents all over the planet, in all our history, is lower than the amount of deaths caused by the explosion of the Piper Alpha oil rig?
Ana, we’re constantly exposed to radiation and all life has been in this situation for billions of years. Our DNA is very capable of doing error corrections. Highly charged particles from solar winds are a concern but it’s not like flight crews are all glowing in the dark are they? They’re not getting cancer more than other people either.
Here’s another metric: do you know that the total amount of deaths caused by all nuclear accidents all over the planet, in all our history, is lower than the amount of deaths caused by the explosion of the Piper Alpha oil rig?
I just dont think an electric plane is safe, I really dont. Yes, it would reduce prices a lot but… I cant explain it, it just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I just dont think an electric plane is safe, I really dont. Yes, it would reduce prices a lot but… I cant explain it, it just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I just dont think an electric plane is safe, I really dont. Yes, it would reduce prices a lot but… I cant explain it, it just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
It would probably be safe as flying is but I think Elon Musk is right to think that long distance high speed travel is safer and cheaper over/under the ground using Hyperloop. Much less to go wrong, as fast or faster… and less radiation (couldn’t resist).
It would probably be safe as flying is but I think Elon Musk is right to think that long distance high speed travel is safer and cheaper over/under the ground using Hyperloop. Much less to go wrong, as fast or faster… and less radiation (couldn’t resist).
It would probably be safe as flying is but I think Elon Musk is right to think that long distance high speed travel is safer and cheaper over/under the ground using Hyperloop. Much less to go wrong, as fast or faster… and less radiation (couldn’t resist).
Ana Freitas if it is anything like the comparison between the internal combustion engine and the electric car, then there will be far less that can go mechanically wrong with an electric plane. Less moving parts means less wear and tear, which means cheaper and safer to fly.
Not to mention the reduction in carbon emissions.
Oh and solar flares? That’s a problem for existing planes as well. How do you fly if all your monitoring equipment and communications goes dead?
Ana Freitas if it is anything like the comparison between the internal combustion engine and the electric car, then there will be far less that can go mechanically wrong with an electric plane. Less moving parts means less wear and tear, which means cheaper and safer to fly.
Not to mention the reduction in carbon emissions.
Oh and solar flares? That’s a problem for existing planes as well. How do you fly if all your monitoring equipment and communications goes dead?
Ana Freitas if it is anything like the comparison between the internal combustion engine and the electric car, then there will be far less that can go mechanically wrong with an electric plane. Less moving parts means less wear and tear, which means cheaper and safer to fly.
Not to mention the reduction in carbon emissions.
Oh and solar flares? That’s a problem for existing planes as well. How do you fly if all your monitoring equipment and communications goes dead?
Monitoring system and communications fail but not the engine. It would be in trouble but there is a chance, a slight but real chance you might still land somewhere. An electrical engine would fry immediately. But I really do not know that much about plane engines, so its just an opinion.
Monitoring system and communications fail but not the engine. It would be in trouble but there is a chance, a slight but real chance you might still land somewhere. An electrical engine would fry immediately. But I really do not know that much about plane engines, so its just an opinion.
Monitoring system and communications fail but not the engine. It would be in trouble but there is a chance, a slight but real chance you might still land somewhere. An electrical engine would fry immediately. But I really do not know that much about plane engines, so its just an opinion.
Ana Freitas conventional jets have lots of small electric motors for hydraulic pressure, fuel pumps, flaps, gears… If this would be an issue at all it would be a big issue. Fortunately it’s fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Computers are actually more susceptible to cosmic rays, even down here on Earth. It’s why they invented error correcting memory chips and why critical systems have backups, up to 3 in say an F16 jet fighter.
Ana Freitas conventional jets have lots of small electric motors for hydraulic pressure, fuel pumps, flaps, gears… If this would be an issue at all it would be a big issue. Fortunately it’s fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Computers are actually more susceptible to cosmic rays, even down here on Earth. It’s why they invented error correcting memory chips and why critical systems have backups, up to 3 in say an F16 jet fighter.
Ana Freitas conventional jets have lots of small electric motors for hydraulic pressure, fuel pumps, flaps, gears… If this would be an issue at all it would be a big issue. Fortunately it’s fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Computers are actually more susceptible to cosmic rays, even down here on Earth. It’s why they invented error correcting memory chips and why critical systems have backups, up to 3 in say an F16 jet fighter.
Modern aircraft are all basically faraday cages with wings. The electronics in aircraft are able to survive lightning strikes, the EM radiation from a solar flare would be shrugged off.
Change can be scary, but that is why things are tested before being introduced to the public. People used to think travelling around in horseless carriages was insane, now we think those that don’t use them are crazy eccentrics.
Modern aircraft are all basically faraday cages with wings. The electronics in aircraft are able to survive lightning strikes, the EM radiation from a solar flare would be shrugged off.
Change can be scary, but that is why things are tested before being introduced to the public. People used to think travelling around in horseless carriages was insane, now we think those that don’t use them are crazy eccentrics.
Modern aircraft are all basically faraday cages with wings. The electronics in aircraft are able to survive lightning strikes, the EM radiation from a solar flare would be shrugged off.
Change can be scary, but that is why things are tested before being introduced to the public. People used to think travelling around in horseless carriages was insane, now we think those that don’t use them are crazy eccentrics.
Truth is the weather is freakish, there’s this electrical storms all over Europe, the news got me nervous… And the sun is just blank, its gone too quiet, alerts for geostorms are not more frequent but more intense… I don’t have a degree in any of these things but in today’s time you are educated enough to understand some of it, and its bad. I don’t think I would trust one of those plains until it’s been around awhile in this day and age, tried out for today’s conditions..that’s basically it
Truth is the weather is freakish, there’s this electrical storms all over Europe, the news got me nervous… And the sun is just blank, its gone too quiet, alerts for geostorms are not more frequent but more intense… I don’t have a degree in any of these things but in today’s time you are educated enough to understand some of it, and its bad. I don’t think I would trust one of those plains until it’s been around awhile in this day and age, tried out for today’s conditions..that’s basically it
Truth is the weather is freakish, there’s this electrical storms all over Europe, the news got me nervous… And the sun is just blank, its gone too quiet, alerts for geostorms are not more frequent but more intense… I don’t have a degree in any of these things but in today’s time you are educated enough to understand some of it, and its bad. I don’t think I would trust one of those plains until it’s been around awhile in this day and age, tried out for today’s conditions..that’s basically it
Ana Freitas Fair enough. A little doubt and uncertainty is a good thing. Electric planes are still a long way from being used for public transportation, so you won’t have to worry for awhile.
A little known fact, those massive diesel trains that haul cargo and people across the country are actually electric. They use a diesel engine to power an electric motor. Electric motors are all over the place, often not where you expect them.
Ana Freitas Fair enough. A little doubt and uncertainty is a good thing. Electric planes are still a long way from being used for public transportation, so you won’t have to worry for awhile.
A little known fact, those massive diesel trains that haul cargo and people across the country are actually electric. They use a diesel engine to power an electric motor. Electric motors are all over the place, often not where you expect them.
Ana Freitas Fair enough. A little doubt and uncertainty is a good thing. Electric planes are still a long way from being used for public transportation, so you won’t have to worry for awhile.
A little known fact, those massive diesel trains that haul cargo and people across the country are actually electric. They use a diesel engine to power an electric motor. Electric motors are all over the place, often not where you expect them.
The production of the batteries requires a lot of resources, does it not ? Is there any actual reduction with carbon emissions after the production requirements are included? Just curious, it would be great to move away from petroleum altogether.
The production of the batteries requires a lot of resources, does it not ? Is there any actual reduction with carbon emissions after the production requirements are included? Just curious, it would be great to move away from petroleum altogether.
The production of the batteries requires a lot of resources, does it not ? Is there any actual reduction with carbon emissions after the production requirements are included? Just curious, it would be great to move away from petroleum altogether.
Batteries require resources but do not actually use them up as they are 99% recyclable. For EV the carbon reduction even using conventional electricity sources was over 56% in the worst case scenario in a study from 2015. As the technology progresses and for example the Tesla Gigafactory becomes energy neutral that figure will only improve.
Batteries require resources but do not actually use them up as they are 99% recyclable. For EV the carbon reduction even using conventional electricity sources was over 56% in the worst case scenario in a study from 2015. As the technology progresses and for example the Tesla Gigafactory becomes energy neutral that figure will only improve.
Batteries require resources but do not actually use them up as they are 99% recyclable. For EV the carbon reduction even using conventional electricity sources was over 56% in the worst case scenario in a study from 2015. As the technology progresses and for example the Tesla Gigafactory becomes energy neutral that figure will only improve.
Have you ever seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for lithium to make these batteries? Combine that with what it takes to produce the energy to charge the batteries and I call it a lose, lose situation. Before doing away with petroleum products, find better ways to produce the energy so that it can be used as soon as it is produced. Get away from batteries to STORE the power and clean up the mess already made in order to obtain the lithium.
Have you ever seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for lithium to make these batteries? Combine that with what it takes to produce the energy to charge the batteries and I call it a lose, lose situation. Before doing away with petroleum products, find better ways to produce the energy so that it can be used as soon as it is produced. Get away from batteries to STORE the power and clean up the mess already made in order to obtain the lithium.
Have you ever seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for lithium to make these batteries? Combine that with what it takes to produce the energy to charge the batteries and I call it a lose, lose situation. Before doing away with petroleum products, find better ways to produce the energy so that it can be used as soon as it is produced. Get away from batteries to STORE the power and clean up the mess already made in order to obtain the lithium.
Lee Yaklin How do you propose to transport people around cities, countries, or continents? Using the energy the moment it is produced is a nice dream, but there are situations where this is impossible.
For example, petroleum vehicles. The energy they are using was stored chemically over the course of hundreds of millions of years. If it had been used at the time there would be no fossil fuels to burn for energy.
Also have you seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for fossil fuels? Some damage is hidden beneath the surface, such as when they drill or frack for the fuel, and some is highly visible such as when they strip mine for coal.
Lee Yaklin How do you propose to transport people around cities, countries, or continents? Using the energy the moment it is produced is a nice dream, but there are situations where this is impossible.
For example, petroleum vehicles. The energy they are using was stored chemically over the course of hundreds of millions of years. If it had been used at the time there would be no fossil fuels to burn for energy.
Also have you seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for fossil fuels? Some damage is hidden beneath the surface, such as when they drill or frack for the fuel, and some is highly visible such as when they strip mine for coal.
Lee Yaklin How do you propose to transport people around cities, countries, or continents? Using the energy the moment it is produced is a nice dream, but there are situations where this is impossible.
For example, petroleum vehicles. The energy they are using was stored chemically over the course of hundreds of millions of years. If it had been used at the time there would be no fossil fuels to burn for energy.
Also have you seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for fossil fuels? Some damage is hidden beneath the surface, such as when they drill or frack for the fuel, and some is highly visible such as when they strip mine for coal.
Lee Yaklin I did check on google. I showed you the evidence so check yourself asshole. Work in the oil&gas industry by any chance? Climate change denier? Get over it.
Lee Yaklin I did check on google. I showed you the evidence so check yourself asshole. Work in the oil&gas industry by any chance? Climate change denier? Get over it.
Lee Yaklin I did check on google. I showed you the evidence so check yourself asshole. Work in the oil&gas industry by any chance? Climate change denier? Get over it.
Lee Yaklin You made far reaching statements because someone showed you a doctored picture on the Internet, probably on Facebook. Then you refuse to back when you see evidence that you’re wrong. How are you not an asshole?
Lee Yaklin You made far reaching statements because someone showed you a doctored picture on the Internet, probably on Facebook. Then you refuse to back when you see evidence that you’re wrong. How are you not an asshole?
Lee Yaklin You made far reaching statements because someone showed you a doctored picture on the Internet, probably on Facebook. Then you refuse to back when you see evidence that you’re wrong. How are you not an asshole?
Matt Casters The one photo you showed is not a lithium mine, true. The other photo is one of the preferred (by Albertans of which I am one) methods of removing oil from the sands, false. It is actually a fracking site in Saskatchewan. Though overall is representative of what Steam reclamation looks like above ground.
Yes the strip mining of the sands is bad, nobody argues that. But the other major source for fossil fuels is on the other side of an ocean in countries that have poor human rights records. People have a right to choose between purchasing oil from dictators, which is then shipped across an ocean (burning more fossil fuel), or purchasing it from a local democratic country.
With the price of oil being held down the far more environmental system of steam reclamation is not used as much because strip mining is cheaper. And until giving up oil cold turkey will not cause the death of billions we have to choose between evils.
Lee Yaklin Lithium mining basically looks like fields of ponds where lithium rich brine has the water evaporated out (via sunlight) and the salts are then processed. A lithium battery will store several times the energy than that which is used in it’s production, in terms of electrical energy, the solar thermal energy may change this but that energy is landing on that same land regardless.
The overall reduction in pollution by using battery “powered” vehicles, even those charged by coal, is at least 53%. For those that are not yet convinced about CO2 and the environment they should look at the cost of ownership. Initial purchase price of BEVs is often higher, but the fuel savings is at least $1200US/year. Plus there are often incentives to purchase BEVs and lower maintenance costs of BEVs.
Matt Casters The one photo you showed is not a lithium mine, true. The other photo is one of the preferred (by Albertans of which I am one) methods of removing oil from the sands, false. It is actually a fracking site in Saskatchewan. Though overall is representative of what Steam reclamation looks like above ground.
Yes the strip mining of the sands is bad, nobody argues that. But the other major source for fossil fuels is on the other side of an ocean in countries that have poor human rights records. People have a right to choose between purchasing oil from dictators, which is then shipped across an ocean (burning more fossil fuel), or purchasing it from a local democratic country.
With the price of oil being held down the far more environmental system of steam reclamation is not used as much because strip mining is cheaper. And until giving up oil cold turkey will not cause the death of billions we have to choose between evils.
Lee Yaklin Lithium mining basically looks like fields of ponds where lithium rich brine has the water evaporated out (via sunlight) and the salts are then processed. A lithium battery will store several times the energy than that which is used in it’s production, in terms of electrical energy, the solar thermal energy may change this but that energy is landing on that same land regardless.
The overall reduction in pollution by using battery “powered” vehicles, even those charged by coal, is at least 53%. For those that are not yet convinced about CO2 and the environment they should look at the cost of ownership. Initial purchase price of BEVs is often higher, but the fuel savings is at least $1200US/year. Plus there are often incentives to purchase BEVs and lower maintenance costs of BEVs.
Matt Casters The one photo you showed is not a lithium mine, true. The other photo is one of the preferred (by Albertans of which I am one) methods of removing oil from the sands, false. It is actually a fracking site in Saskatchewan. Though overall is representative of what Steam reclamation looks like above ground.
Yes the strip mining of the sands is bad, nobody argues that. But the other major source for fossil fuels is on the other side of an ocean in countries that have poor human rights records. People have a right to choose between purchasing oil from dictators, which is then shipped across an ocean (burning more fossil fuel), or purchasing it from a local democratic country.
With the price of oil being held down the far more environmental system of steam reclamation is not used as much because strip mining is cheaper. And until giving up oil cold turkey will not cause the death of billions we have to choose between evils.
Lee Yaklin Lithium mining basically looks like fields of ponds where lithium rich brine has the water evaporated out (via sunlight) and the salts are then processed. A lithium battery will store several times the energy than that which is used in it’s production, in terms of electrical energy, the solar thermal energy may change this but that energy is landing on that same land regardless.
The overall reduction in pollution by using battery “powered” vehicles, even those charged by coal, is at least 53%. For those that are not yet convinced about CO2 and the environment they should look at the cost of ownership. Initial purchase price of BEVs is often higher, but the fuel savings is at least $1200US/year. Plus there are often incentives to purchase BEVs and lower maintenance costs of BEVs.
Edwin Laarz Sorry, I never showed any pictures, it was just a link to snopes.com. I completely agree with you on all points actually. Thanks for the information!
Edwin Laarz Sorry, I never showed any pictures, it was just a link to snopes.com. I completely agree with you on all points actually. Thanks for the information!
Edwin Laarz Sorry, I never showed any pictures, it was just a link to snopes.com. I completely agree with you on all points actually. Thanks for the information!
Meh. I’m not arguing with you or Lee. I’m hoping that by calling out the lies and misdirection in a clear and direct way with links to the correct information, others don’t perpetuate the same BS. So stay on your high horse for all I care.
Meh. I’m not arguing with you or Lee. I’m hoping that by calling out the lies and misdirection in a clear and direct way with links to the correct information, others don’t perpetuate the same BS. So stay on your high horse for all I care.
Meh. I’m not arguing with you or Lee. I’m hoping that by calling out the lies and misdirection in a clear and direct way with links to the correct information, others don’t perpetuate the same BS. So stay on your high horse for all I care.
Luis Martinez Coating the entire plane in solar panels might add 5km onto the planes range and would ensure that the plane would crash if it were ever to be struck by lightning. For gliders and other light unmanned planes solar panels on the wings can be viable, but for commercial planes they are of no use.
Luis Martinez Coating the entire plane in solar panels might add 5km onto the planes range and would ensure that the plane would crash if it were ever to be struck by lightning. For gliders and other light unmanned planes solar panels on the wings can be viable, but for commercial planes they are of no use.
Luis Martinez Coating the entire plane in solar panels might add 5km onto the planes range and would ensure that the plane would crash if it were ever to be struck by lightning. For gliders and other light unmanned planes solar panels on the wings can be viable, but for commercial planes they are of no use.
Luis Martinez That’s nice but of no value for planes. He would need to also increase the efficiency several thousand percent while also making them non-conductive to make them immune to lightning. Both of these things are beyond current scientific knowledge.
Luis Martinez That’s nice but of no value for planes. He would need to also increase the efficiency several thousand percent while also making them non-conductive to make them immune to lightning. Both of these things are beyond current scientific knowledge.
Luis Martinez That’s nice but of no value for planes. He would need to also increase the efficiency several thousand percent while also making them non-conductive to make them immune to lightning. Both of these things are beyond current scientific knowledge.
A solar flare and the whole thing shuts down and plummets to the ground. The aviation companies should be more worried about isolating their planes from such disturbances but once again, its more about the how economic and pretty it is. I know its difficult to see how precious each of us are in a world of billions but please, do try… just try.
A solar flare and the whole thing shuts down and plummets to the ground. The aviation companies should be more worried about isolating their planes from such disturbances but once again, its more about the how economic and pretty it is. I know its difficult to see how precious each of us are in a world of billions but please, do try… just try.
A solar flare and the whole thing shuts down and plummets to the ground. The aviation companies should be more worried about isolating their planes from such disturbances but once again, its more about the how economic and pretty it is. I know its difficult to see how precious each of us are in a world of billions but please, do try… just try.
Seriously, solar flares? Of all things that’s what you worry about? Low level radiation really isn’t that big of a deal to humans and shielded electronics. A huge long term study done on Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors shows that we are very capable of handling even large radiation doses without too much consequence.
Seriously, solar flares? Of all things that’s what you worry about? Low level radiation really isn’t that big of a deal to humans and shielded electronics. A huge long term study done on Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors shows that we are very capable of handling even large radiation doses without too much consequence.
Seriously, solar flares? Of all things that’s what you worry about? Low level radiation really isn’t that big of a deal to humans and shielded electronics. A huge long term study done on Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors shows that we are very capable of handling even large radiation doses without too much consequence.
Your mutant sons will glow in the dark, yupiiiii. Now seriously, prolonged exposure to radiation can have serious effects on your health, you know that. You give these companies a hand, they will take an arm; you also know that. Have you seen the latest video of the guy drag out of the plane? It could always be worse.
Your mutant sons will glow in the dark, yupiiiii. Now seriously, prolonged exposure to radiation can have serious effects on your health, you know that. You give these companies a hand, they will take an arm; you also know that. Have you seen the latest video of the guy drag out of the plane? It could always be worse.
Your mutant sons will glow in the dark, yupiiiii. Now seriously, prolonged exposure to radiation can have serious effects on your health, you know that. You give these companies a hand, they will take an arm; you also know that. Have you seen the latest video of the guy drag out of the plane? It could always be worse.
Ana, we’re constantly exposed to radiation and all life has been in this situation for billions of years. Our DNA is very capable of doing error corrections. Highly charged particles from solar winds are a concern but it’s not like flight crews are all glowing in the dark are they? They’re not getting cancer more than other people either.
Here’s another metric: do you know that the total amount of deaths caused by all nuclear accidents all over the planet, in all our history, is lower than the amount of deaths caused by the explosion of the Piper Alpha oil rig?
nrc.gov – NRC: Natural Background Sources
Ana, we’re constantly exposed to radiation and all life has been in this situation for billions of years. Our DNA is very capable of doing error corrections. Highly charged particles from solar winds are a concern but it’s not like flight crews are all glowing in the dark are they? They’re not getting cancer more than other people either.
Here’s another metric: do you know that the total amount of deaths caused by all nuclear accidents all over the planet, in all our history, is lower than the amount of deaths caused by the explosion of the Piper Alpha oil rig?
nrc.gov – NRC: Natural Background Sources
Ana, we’re constantly exposed to radiation and all life has been in this situation for billions of years. Our DNA is very capable of doing error corrections. Highly charged particles from solar winds are a concern but it’s not like flight crews are all glowing in the dark are they? They’re not getting cancer more than other people either.
Here’s another metric: do you know that the total amount of deaths caused by all nuclear accidents all over the planet, in all our history, is lower than the amount of deaths caused by the explosion of the Piper Alpha oil rig?
nrc.gov – NRC: Natural Background Sources
I just dont think an electric plane is safe, I really dont. Yes, it would reduce prices a lot but… I cant explain it, it just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I just dont think an electric plane is safe, I really dont. Yes, it would reduce prices a lot but… I cant explain it, it just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I just dont think an electric plane is safe, I really dont. Yes, it would reduce prices a lot but… I cant explain it, it just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
It would probably be safe as flying is but I think Elon Musk is right to think that long distance high speed travel is safer and cheaper over/under the ground using Hyperloop. Much less to go wrong, as fast or faster… and less radiation (couldn’t resist).
It would probably be safe as flying is but I think Elon Musk is right to think that long distance high speed travel is safer and cheaper over/under the ground using Hyperloop. Much less to go wrong, as fast or faster… and less radiation (couldn’t resist).
It would probably be safe as flying is but I think Elon Musk is right to think that long distance high speed travel is safer and cheaper over/under the ground using Hyperloop. Much less to go wrong, as fast or faster… and less radiation (couldn’t resist).
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Ana Freitas if it is anything like the comparison between the internal combustion engine and the electric car, then there will be far less that can go mechanically wrong with an electric plane. Less moving parts means less wear and tear, which means cheaper and safer to fly.
Not to mention the reduction in carbon emissions.
Oh and solar flares? That’s a problem for existing planes as well. How do you fly if all your monitoring equipment and communications goes dead?
Ana Freitas if it is anything like the comparison between the internal combustion engine and the electric car, then there will be far less that can go mechanically wrong with an electric plane. Less moving parts means less wear and tear, which means cheaper and safer to fly.
Not to mention the reduction in carbon emissions.
Oh and solar flares? That’s a problem for existing planes as well. How do you fly if all your monitoring equipment and communications goes dead?
Ana Freitas if it is anything like the comparison between the internal combustion engine and the electric car, then there will be far less that can go mechanically wrong with an electric plane. Less moving parts means less wear and tear, which means cheaper and safer to fly.
Not to mention the reduction in carbon emissions.
Oh and solar flares? That’s a problem for existing planes as well. How do you fly if all your monitoring equipment and communications goes dead?
Monitoring system and communications fail but not the engine. It would be in trouble but there is a chance, a slight but real chance you might still land somewhere. An electrical engine would fry immediately. But I really do not know that much about plane engines, so its just an opinion.
Monitoring system and communications fail but not the engine. It would be in trouble but there is a chance, a slight but real chance you might still land somewhere. An electrical engine would fry immediately. But I really do not know that much about plane engines, so its just an opinion.
Monitoring system and communications fail but not the engine. It would be in trouble but there is a chance, a slight but real chance you might still land somewhere. An electrical engine would fry immediately. But I really do not know that much about plane engines, so its just an opinion.
Just out of curiosity, how many electric engines have you heard about frying due to solar flares anyway Ana Freitas?
Just out of curiosity, how many electric engines have you heard about frying due to solar flares anyway Ana Freitas?
Just out of curiosity, how many electric engines have you heard about frying due to solar flares anyway Ana Freitas?
You don’t think the engines on modern planes are packed with control electronics?
You don’t think the engines on modern planes are packed with control electronics?
You don’t think the engines on modern planes are packed with control electronics?
Ana Freitas conventional jets have lots of small electric motors for hydraulic pressure, fuel pumps, flaps, gears… If this would be an issue at all it would be a big issue. Fortunately it’s fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Computers are actually more susceptible to cosmic rays, even down here on Earth. It’s why they invented error correcting memory chips and why critical systems have backups, up to 3 in say an F16 jet fighter.
Ana Freitas conventional jets have lots of small electric motors for hydraulic pressure, fuel pumps, flaps, gears… If this would be an issue at all it would be a big issue. Fortunately it’s fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Computers are actually more susceptible to cosmic rays, even down here on Earth. It’s why they invented error correcting memory chips and why critical systems have backups, up to 3 in say an F16 jet fighter.
Ana Freitas conventional jets have lots of small electric motors for hydraulic pressure, fuel pumps, flaps, gears… If this would be an issue at all it would be a big issue. Fortunately it’s fairly easy to shield against cosmic radiation. Computers are actually more susceptible to cosmic rays, even down here on Earth. It’s why they invented error correcting memory chips and why critical systems have backups, up to 3 in say an F16 jet fighter.
Modern aircraft are all basically faraday cages with wings. The electronics in aircraft are able to survive lightning strikes, the EM radiation from a solar flare would be shrugged off.
Change can be scary, but that is why things are tested before being introduced to the public. People used to think travelling around in horseless carriages was insane, now we think those that don’t use them are crazy eccentrics.
Modern aircraft are all basically faraday cages with wings. The electronics in aircraft are able to survive lightning strikes, the EM radiation from a solar flare would be shrugged off.
Change can be scary, but that is why things are tested before being introduced to the public. People used to think travelling around in horseless carriages was insane, now we think those that don’t use them are crazy eccentrics.
Modern aircraft are all basically faraday cages with wings. The electronics in aircraft are able to survive lightning strikes, the EM radiation from a solar flare would be shrugged off.
Change can be scary, but that is why things are tested before being introduced to the public. People used to think travelling around in horseless carriages was insane, now we think those that don’t use them are crazy eccentrics.
Truth is the weather is freakish, there’s this electrical storms all over Europe, the news got me nervous… And the sun is just blank, its gone too quiet, alerts for geostorms are not more frequent but more intense… I don’t have a degree in any of these things but in today’s time you are educated enough to understand some of it, and its bad. I don’t think I would trust one of those plains until it’s been around awhile in this day and age, tried out for today’s conditions..that’s basically it
Truth is the weather is freakish, there’s this electrical storms all over Europe, the news got me nervous… And the sun is just blank, its gone too quiet, alerts for geostorms are not more frequent but more intense… I don’t have a degree in any of these things but in today’s time you are educated enough to understand some of it, and its bad. I don’t think I would trust one of those plains until it’s been around awhile in this day and age, tried out for today’s conditions..that’s basically it
Truth is the weather is freakish, there’s this electrical storms all over Europe, the news got me nervous… And the sun is just blank, its gone too quiet, alerts for geostorms are not more frequent but more intense… I don’t have a degree in any of these things but in today’s time you are educated enough to understand some of it, and its bad. I don’t think I would trust one of those plains until it’s been around awhile in this day and age, tried out for today’s conditions..that’s basically it
Ana Freitas Fair enough. A little doubt and uncertainty is a good thing. Electric planes are still a long way from being used for public transportation, so you won’t have to worry for awhile.
A little known fact, those massive diesel trains that haul cargo and people across the country are actually electric. They use a diesel engine to power an electric motor. Electric motors are all over the place, often not where you expect them.
Ana Freitas Fair enough. A little doubt and uncertainty is a good thing. Electric planes are still a long way from being used for public transportation, so you won’t have to worry for awhile.
A little known fact, those massive diesel trains that haul cargo and people across the country are actually electric. They use a diesel engine to power an electric motor. Electric motors are all over the place, often not where you expect them.
Ana Freitas Fair enough. A little doubt and uncertainty is a good thing. Electric planes are still a long way from being used for public transportation, so you won’t have to worry for awhile.
A little known fact, those massive diesel trains that haul cargo and people across the country are actually electric. They use a diesel engine to power an electric motor. Electric motors are all over the place, often not where you expect them.
What power source to generate the electricity for this plane?
What power source to generate the electricity for this plane?
What power source to generate the electricity for this plane?
The production of the batteries requires a lot of resources, does it not ? Is there any actual reduction with carbon emissions after the production requirements are included? Just curious, it would be great to move away from petroleum altogether.
The production of the batteries requires a lot of resources, does it not ? Is there any actual reduction with carbon emissions after the production requirements are included? Just curious, it would be great to move away from petroleum altogether.
The production of the batteries requires a lot of resources, does it not ? Is there any actual reduction with carbon emissions after the production requirements are included? Just curious, it would be great to move away from petroleum altogether.
Batteries require resources but do not actually use them up as they are 99% recyclable. For EV the carbon reduction even using conventional electricity sources was over 56% in the worst case scenario in a study from 2015. As the technology progresses and for example the Tesla Gigafactory becomes energy neutral that figure will only improve.
Batteries require resources but do not actually use them up as they are 99% recyclable. For EV the carbon reduction even using conventional electricity sources was over 56% in the worst case scenario in a study from 2015. As the technology progresses and for example the Tesla Gigafactory becomes energy neutral that figure will only improve.
Batteries require resources but do not actually use them up as they are 99% recyclable. For EV the carbon reduction even using conventional electricity sources was over 56% in the worst case scenario in a study from 2015. As the technology progresses and for example the Tesla Gigafactory becomes energy neutral that figure will only improve.
Have you ever seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for lithium to make these batteries? Combine that with what it takes to produce the energy to charge the batteries and I call it a lose, lose situation. Before doing away with petroleum products, find better ways to produce the energy so that it can be used as soon as it is produced. Get away from batteries to STORE the power and clean up the mess already made in order to obtain the lithium.
Have you ever seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for lithium to make these batteries? Combine that with what it takes to produce the energy to charge the batteries and I call it a lose, lose situation. Before doing away with petroleum products, find better ways to produce the energy so that it can be used as soon as it is produced. Get away from batteries to STORE the power and clean up the mess already made in order to obtain the lithium.
Have you ever seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for lithium to make these batteries? Combine that with what it takes to produce the energy to charge the batteries and I call it a lose, lose situation. Before doing away with petroleum products, find better ways to produce the energy so that it can be used as soon as it is produced. Get away from batteries to STORE the power and clean up the mess already made in order to obtain the lithium.
Lee Yaklin How do you propose to transport people around cities, countries, or continents? Using the energy the moment it is produced is a nice dream, but there are situations where this is impossible.
For example, petroleum vehicles. The energy they are using was stored chemically over the course of hundreds of millions of years. If it had been used at the time there would be no fossil fuels to burn for energy.
Also have you seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for fossil fuels? Some damage is hidden beneath the surface, such as when they drill or frack for the fuel, and some is highly visible such as when they strip mine for coal.
Lee Yaklin How do you propose to transport people around cities, countries, or continents? Using the energy the moment it is produced is a nice dream, but there are situations where this is impossible.
For example, petroleum vehicles. The energy they are using was stored chemically over the course of hundreds of millions of years. If it had been used at the time there would be no fossil fuels to burn for energy.
Also have you seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for fossil fuels? Some damage is hidden beneath the surface, such as when they drill or frack for the fuel, and some is highly visible such as when they strip mine for coal.
Lee Yaklin How do you propose to transport people around cities, countries, or continents? Using the energy the moment it is produced is a nice dream, but there are situations where this is impossible.
For example, petroleum vehicles. The energy they are using was stored chemically over the course of hundreds of millions of years. If it had been used at the time there would be no fossil fuels to burn for energy.
Also have you seen the damage done to the earth in the quest for fossil fuels? Some damage is hidden beneath the surface, such as when they drill or frack for the fuel, and some is highly visible such as when they strip mine for coal.
Lee Yaklin Stop with the FUD. Lithium mining wasn’t a thing until recently. snopes.com – Lithium Mine and Oil Sands
There’s plenty of lithium to go around and it’s cheap to get, even from sea water.
Lee Yaklin Stop with the FUD. Lithium mining wasn’t a thing until recently. snopes.com – Lithium Mine and Oil Sands
There’s plenty of lithium to go around and it’s cheap to get, even from sea water.
Lee Yaklin Stop with the FUD. Lithium mining wasn’t a thing until recently. snopes.com – Lithium Mine and Oil Sands
There’s plenty of lithium to go around and it’s cheap to get, even from sea water.
Chile and Argentine are the largest producers of Lithium, they get them from “Brine Pools” (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium#Reserves)
So Lithium basically gets pumped up in liquid salt form, not mined, though Lithium can be found and obtained while mining for other elements.
en.wikipedia.org – Lithium – Wikipedia
Chile and Argentine are the largest producers of Lithium, they get them from “Brine Pools” (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium#Reserves)
So Lithium basically gets pumped up in liquid salt form, not mined, though Lithium can be found and obtained while mining for other elements.
en.wikipedia.org – Lithium – Wikipedia
Chile and Argentine are the largest producers of Lithium, they get them from “Brine Pools” (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium#Reserves)
So Lithium basically gets pumped up in liquid salt form, not mined, though Lithium can be found and obtained while mining for other elements.
en.wikipedia.org – Lithium – Wikipedia
Maybe you should check the photos on google.
Maybe you should check the photos on google.
Maybe you should check the photos on google.
Lee Yaklin I did check on google. I showed you the evidence so check yourself asshole. Work in the oil&gas industry by any chance? Climate change denier? Get over it.
Lee Yaklin I did check on google. I showed you the evidence so check yourself asshole. Work in the oil&gas industry by any chance? Climate change denier? Get over it.
Lee Yaklin I did check on google. I showed you the evidence so check yourself asshole. Work in the oil&gas industry by any chance? Climate change denier? Get over it.
I never call others by that name.
I never call others by that name.
I never call others by that name.
Lee Yaklin You made far reaching statements because someone showed you a doctored picture on the Internet, probably on Facebook. Then you refuse to back when you see evidence that you’re wrong. How are you not an asshole?
Lee Yaklin You made far reaching statements because someone showed you a doctored picture on the Internet, probably on Facebook. Then you refuse to back when you see evidence that you’re wrong. How are you not an asshole?
Lee Yaklin You made far reaching statements because someone showed you a doctored picture on the Internet, probably on Facebook. Then you refuse to back when you see evidence that you’re wrong. How are you not an asshole?
I refuse to correspond with people such as you. End of post.
I refuse to correspond with people such as you. End of post.
I refuse to correspond with people such as you. End of post.
Lee Yaklin thank you
Lee Yaklin thank you
Lee Yaklin thank you
Matt Casters The one photo you showed is not a lithium mine, true. The other photo is one of the preferred (by Albertans of which I am one) methods of removing oil from the sands, false. It is actually a fracking site in Saskatchewan. Though overall is representative of what Steam reclamation looks like above ground.
Yes the strip mining of the sands is bad, nobody argues that. But the other major source for fossil fuels is on the other side of an ocean in countries that have poor human rights records. People have a right to choose between purchasing oil from dictators, which is then shipped across an ocean (burning more fossil fuel), or purchasing it from a local democratic country.
With the price of oil being held down the far more environmental system of steam reclamation is not used as much because strip mining is cheaper. And until giving up oil cold turkey will not cause the death of billions we have to choose between evils.
Lee Yaklin Lithium mining basically looks like fields of ponds where lithium rich brine has the water evaporated out (via sunlight) and the salts are then processed. A lithium battery will store several times the energy than that which is used in it’s production, in terms of electrical energy, the solar thermal energy may change this but that energy is landing on that same land regardless.
The overall reduction in pollution by using battery “powered” vehicles, even those charged by coal, is at least 53%. For those that are not yet convinced about CO2 and the environment they should look at the cost of ownership. Initial purchase price of BEVs is often higher, but the fuel savings is at least $1200US/year. Plus there are often incentives to purchase BEVs and lower maintenance costs of BEVs.
snopes.com
Matt Casters The one photo you showed is not a lithium mine, true. The other photo is one of the preferred (by Albertans of which I am one) methods of removing oil from the sands, false. It is actually a fracking site in Saskatchewan. Though overall is representative of what Steam reclamation looks like above ground.
Yes the strip mining of the sands is bad, nobody argues that. But the other major source for fossil fuels is on the other side of an ocean in countries that have poor human rights records. People have a right to choose between purchasing oil from dictators, which is then shipped across an ocean (burning more fossil fuel), or purchasing it from a local democratic country.
With the price of oil being held down the far more environmental system of steam reclamation is not used as much because strip mining is cheaper. And until giving up oil cold turkey will not cause the death of billions we have to choose between evils.
Lee Yaklin Lithium mining basically looks like fields of ponds where lithium rich brine has the water evaporated out (via sunlight) and the salts are then processed. A lithium battery will store several times the energy than that which is used in it’s production, in terms of electrical energy, the solar thermal energy may change this but that energy is landing on that same land regardless.
The overall reduction in pollution by using battery “powered” vehicles, even those charged by coal, is at least 53%. For those that are not yet convinced about CO2 and the environment they should look at the cost of ownership. Initial purchase price of BEVs is often higher, but the fuel savings is at least $1200US/year. Plus there are often incentives to purchase BEVs and lower maintenance costs of BEVs.
snopes.com
Matt Casters The one photo you showed is not a lithium mine, true. The other photo is one of the preferred (by Albertans of which I am one) methods of removing oil from the sands, false. It is actually a fracking site in Saskatchewan. Though overall is representative of what Steam reclamation looks like above ground.
Yes the strip mining of the sands is bad, nobody argues that. But the other major source for fossil fuels is on the other side of an ocean in countries that have poor human rights records. People have a right to choose between purchasing oil from dictators, which is then shipped across an ocean (burning more fossil fuel), or purchasing it from a local democratic country.
With the price of oil being held down the far more environmental system of steam reclamation is not used as much because strip mining is cheaper. And until giving up oil cold turkey will not cause the death of billions we have to choose between evils.
Lee Yaklin Lithium mining basically looks like fields of ponds where lithium rich brine has the water evaporated out (via sunlight) and the salts are then processed. A lithium battery will store several times the energy than that which is used in it’s production, in terms of electrical energy, the solar thermal energy may change this but that energy is landing on that same land regardless.
The overall reduction in pollution by using battery “powered” vehicles, even those charged by coal, is at least 53%. For those that are not yet convinced about CO2 and the environment they should look at the cost of ownership. Initial purchase price of BEVs is often higher, but the fuel savings is at least $1200US/year. Plus there are often incentives to purchase BEVs and lower maintenance costs of BEVs.
snopes.com
Edwin Laarz Sorry, I never showed any pictures, it was just a link to snopes.com. I completely agree with you on all points actually. Thanks for the information!
Edwin Laarz Sorry, I never showed any pictures, it was just a link to snopes.com. I completely agree with you on all points actually. Thanks for the information!
Edwin Laarz Sorry, I never showed any pictures, it was just a link to snopes.com. I completely agree with you on all points actually. Thanks for the information!
When Some one is An AssHole it Will come out in there Personality…..
When Some one is An AssHole it Will come out in there Personality…..
When Some one is An AssHole it Will come out in there Personality…..
I do regret the use of the word asshole. More precise would have been terms like lazy or morally bankrupt. But there you go.
I do regret the use of the word asshole. More precise would have been terms like lazy or morally bankrupt. But there you go.
I do regret the use of the word asshole. More precise would have been terms like lazy or morally bankrupt. But there you go.
The Fact would Remain There You Go
The Fact would Remain There You Go
The Fact would Remain There You Go
Meh. I’m not arguing with you or Lee. I’m hoping that by calling out the lies and misdirection in a clear and direct way with links to the correct information, others don’t perpetuate the same BS. So stay on your high horse for all I care.
Meh. I’m not arguing with you or Lee. I’m hoping that by calling out the lies and misdirection in a clear and direct way with links to the correct information, others don’t perpetuate the same BS. So stay on your high horse for all I care.
Meh. I’m not arguing with you or Lee. I’m hoping that by calling out the lies and misdirection in a clear and direct way with links to the correct information, others don’t perpetuate the same BS. So stay on your high horse for all I care.
Set of electric motors how about solar panels the whole top of the plane Luis Martinez s*** City Milwaukee Wisconsin
Set of electric motors how about solar panels the whole top of the plane Luis Martinez s*** City Milwaukee Wisconsin
Set of electric motors how about solar panels the whole top of the plane Luis Martinez s*** City Milwaukee Wisconsin
Luis Martinez Coating the entire plane in solar panels might add 5km onto the planes range and would ensure that the plane would crash if it were ever to be struck by lightning. For gliders and other light unmanned planes solar panels on the wings can be viable, but for commercial planes they are of no use.
Luis Martinez Coating the entire plane in solar panels might add 5km onto the planes range and would ensure that the plane would crash if it were ever to be struck by lightning. For gliders and other light unmanned planes solar panels on the wings can be viable, but for commercial planes they are of no use.
Luis Martinez Coating the entire plane in solar panels might add 5km onto the planes range and would ensure that the plane would crash if it were ever to be struck by lightning. For gliders and other light unmanned planes solar panels on the wings can be viable, but for commercial planes they are of no use.
There’s some Chinese guy that figured out how to make solar panels the same
thickness as paper infected comes in a roll
There’s some Chinese guy that figured out how to make solar panels the same
thickness as paper infected comes in a roll
There’s some Chinese guy that figured out how to make solar panels the same
thickness as paper infected comes in a roll
Luis Martinez That’s nice but of no value for planes. He would need to also increase the efficiency several thousand percent while also making them non-conductive to make them immune to lightning. Both of these things are beyond current scientific knowledge.
Luis Martinez That’s nice but of no value for planes. He would need to also increase the efficiency several thousand percent while also making them non-conductive to make them immune to lightning. Both of these things are beyond current scientific knowledge.
Luis Martinez That’s nice but of no value for planes. He would need to also increase the efficiency several thousand percent while also making them non-conductive to make them immune to lightning. Both of these things are beyond current scientific knowledge.
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