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Hyundai NEXO

September 8, 2018 by Alan Stainer

Hyundai NEXO

Whether you believe in hydrogen fuel cells being the future of vehicle power or not, you can’t deny the technology is impressive. Personally I think we’ll see it more frequently in larger vehicles, like the coach towards the end.

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  1. Warwick Williams says

    September 9, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    There is an Australian invention from the CSIRO that if it gets up will really drive the hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles. Here is a link to a few of the articles about it.

    https://youtu.be/-JYD5Sm1zAc

    youtube.com – Carbon-free fuel: Australian hydrogen car breakthrough could go global

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  2. Warwick Williams says

    September 9, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    There is an Australian invention from the CSIRO that if it gets up will really drive the hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles. Here is a link to a few of the articles about it.

    https://youtu.be/-JYD5Sm1zAc

    youtube.com – Carbon-free fuel: Australian hydrogen car breakthrough could go global

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  3. John Winterhalter says

    September 9, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    I my opinion a backdoor attempt to keep oil as primary options

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  4. John Winterhalter says

    September 9, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    I my opinion a backdoor attempt to keep oil as primary options

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  5. larry Spiller says

    September 10, 2018 at 3:17 am

    John Winterhalter absolutely agree, if hydrogen ever captures the consumer transport market they will charge an arm and a leg no doubt.

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  6. larry Spiller says

    September 10, 2018 at 3:17 am

    John Winterhalter absolutely agree, if hydrogen ever captures the consumer transport market they will charge an arm and a leg no doubt.

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  7. Alan Stainer says

    September 10, 2018 at 6:17 am

    Plug in electric vehicles are revolutionising the way we ‘refuel’ our cars. You can literally top up anywhere there is an electric plug socket, which means no more waiting for a pump at the nearest filling station.

    Hydrogen doesn’t have that advantage and the irony is you still need a battery.

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  8. Alan Stainer says

    September 10, 2018 at 6:17 am

    Plug in electric vehicles are revolutionising the way we ‘refuel’ our cars. You can literally top up anywhere there is an electric plug socket, which means no more waiting for a pump at the nearest filling station.

    Hydrogen doesn’t have that advantage and the irony is you still need a battery.

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  9. Warwick Williams says

    September 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm

    Alan Stainer

    “Hydrogen doesn’t have that advantage and the irony is you still need a battery.”

    Hydrogen fuel cells create electricity. How does one of these cars need a battery? In reality, battery powered vehicles take a lot longer to recharge than filling up a tank no matter what sort of charger or car.

    Charging vehicles at home also bypasses excise tax that gets used to do things like build and maintain roads, fund road trauma as well as other things. The government here is already looking at ways to charge for this so the well off don’t get to evade even more tax.

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  10. Warwick Williams says

    September 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm

    Alan Stainer

    “Hydrogen doesn’t have that advantage and the irony is you still need a battery.”

    Hydrogen fuel cells create electricity. How does one of these cars need a battery? In reality, battery powered vehicles take a lot longer to recharge than filling up a tank no matter what sort of charger or car.

    Charging vehicles at home also bypasses excise tax that gets used to do things like build and maintain roads, fund road trauma as well as other things. The government here is already looking at ways to charge for this so the well off don’t get to evade even more tax.

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  11. John Winterhalter says

    September 10, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    If you want Hydrogen powered cars it helps to live in Calif.. you will be in a very select community of 3000 owners

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  12. John Winterhalter says

    September 10, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    If you want Hydrogen powered cars it helps to live in Calif.. you will be in a very select community of 3000 owners

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  13. Edwin Laarz says

    September 10, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    Hydrogen for personal transport is still a poor choice. I’m not yet convinced that it isn’t a viable choice for stationary energy storage, specifically for balancing year round excess and shortage in northern regions where summer days are long and power needs are low while winter days are short and power needs are high. Two or three days of storage in batteries makes sense, but batteries are not a great choice for long term storage on a large scale.

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  14. Edwin Laarz says

    September 10, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    Hydrogen for personal transport is still a poor choice. I’m not yet convinced that it isn’t a viable choice for stationary energy storage, specifically for balancing year round excess and shortage in northern regions where summer days are long and power needs are low while winter days are short and power needs are high. Two or three days of storage in batteries makes sense, but batteries are not a great choice for long term storage on a large scale.

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  15. Warwick Williams says

    September 11, 2018 at 12:37 am

    John Winterhalter At the moment there are only a few hundred refilling stations in the world or something small like that. 2 things though, the moment car manufacturers and oil companies want to make hydrogen refilling stations happen, they will happen, and if that CSIRO invention gets up it will remove one of the biggest logistical issues that was holding back liquid hydrogen which apparently was safe transport.

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  16. Warwick Williams says

    September 11, 2018 at 12:37 am

    John Winterhalter At the moment there are only a few hundred refilling stations in the world or something small like that. 2 things though, the moment car manufacturers and oil companies want to make hydrogen refilling stations happen, they will happen, and if that CSIRO invention gets up it will remove one of the biggest logistical issues that was holding back liquid hydrogen which apparently was safe transport.

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  17. Alan Stainer says

    September 11, 2018 at 6:21 am

    Warwick Williams The car in the video used a battery in addition to all of the hydrogen gubbins. Regenerative breaking is one massive example of a reason why they will need a battery, as there is no way you can convert electricity back into petrol, diesel or hydrogen. There are other benefits, which you are surely familiar with and I can’t believe manufacturers would want to deliberately hamper their own efforts when the rest of the world is switching to BEVs

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  18. Alan Stainer says

    September 11, 2018 at 6:21 am

    Warwick Williams The car in the video used a battery in addition to all of the hydrogen gubbins. Regenerative breaking is one massive example of a reason why they will need a battery, as there is no way you can convert electricity back into petrol, diesel or hydrogen. There are other benefits, which you are surely familiar with and I can’t believe manufacturers would want to deliberately hamper their own efforts when the rest of the world is switching to BEVs

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  19. John Winterhalter says

    September 11, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    Warwick Williams Thanks for the reply

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  20. John Winterhalter says

    September 11, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    Warwick Williams Thanks for the reply

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  21. Warwick Williams says

    September 11, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    Alan Stainer Well bugger me, according to the specs the Nexo has a 40kw battery. There you go hey… Still don’t understand fully why one is needed, I think it is more from this design than a necessity but I can’t find that information. Regenerative braking doesn’t produce much electricity. Using electric motors also as brakes just replaces disc brakes and picks up a few points in efficiency but that is it.

    This is a prime example of how fast technology can change and how a break through with one issue to do with a certain technology can really open things up. One large problem with battery powered vehicles is the stored energy versus weight. Fuel cell vehicles can answer this.

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  22. Warwick Williams says

    September 11, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    Alan Stainer Well bugger me, according to the specs the Nexo has a 40kw battery. There you go hey… Still don’t understand fully why one is needed, I think it is more from this design than a necessity but I can’t find that information. Regenerative braking doesn’t produce much electricity. Using electric motors also as brakes just replaces disc brakes and picks up a few points in efficiency but that is it.

    This is a prime example of how fast technology can change and how a break through with one issue to do with a certain technology can really open things up. One large problem with battery powered vehicles is the stored energy versus weight. Fuel cell vehicles can answer this.

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  23. Warwick Williams says

    September 11, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    John Winterhalter No worries.

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  24. Warwick Williams says

    September 11, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    John Winterhalter No worries.

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  25. John Winterhalter says

    September 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm

    Warwick Williams My guess as to why they have a 40kw battery is that the fuel cell can not produce the quick acceleration need +Plus the regen savings and braking.

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  26. John Winterhalter says

    September 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm

    Warwick Williams My guess as to why they have a 40kw battery is that the fuel cell can not produce the quick acceleration need +Plus the regen savings and braking.

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