The UK wants every new home to come with an EV charger
I fully support this move and I hope it goes through parliament without issue. It is a big deal.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/09/the-uk-wants-every-new-home-to-come-with-an-ev-charger/
Edit: I realised I omitted something. If the UK gov could do the same with solar cells and battery storage on new build housing, that would be even better. In fact, it would be ground breaking and bold.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/09/the-uk-wants-every-new-home-to-come-with-an-ev-charger/
At what cost?
At what cost?
Warwick Williams I’d imagine it would be negligible in comparison to the cost of a new build property overall.
Warwick Williams I’d imagine it would be negligible in comparison to the cost of a new build property overall.
I can only begin to imagine the savings per cost of installation of these chargers!
I can only begin to imagine the savings per cost of installation of these chargers!
& if only they made solar panels required for new homes!
& if only they made solar panels required for new homes!
Yep, we would be in a much better world Skye Barkschat
Yep, we would be in a much better world Skye Barkschat
Alan Stainer Agreed!
Alan Stainer Agreed!
We’re at the technological point where we could be in a much better, more peaceful place!!
We’re at the technological point where we could be in a much better, more peaceful place!!
Alan Stainer You would imagine? Very idealistic however you would be surprised at how much an addition costs. From experience even something like an inspection opening brought to surface and put under a valve box costs between $250 to $500 for what is 10 minutes work and about $50 worth of parts. Wanting a different or additional water heater costs loads more and escalates if they need to alter pipework from the original plans.
In relation to the hundreds of thousands of dollars to build a house this doesn’t sound like much but when you are the one paying for it every dollar counts whether it’s $100 or $1000.
Alan Stainer You would imagine? Very idealistic however you would be surprised at how much an addition costs. From experience even something like an inspection opening brought to surface and put under a valve box costs between $250 to $500 for what is 10 minutes work and about $50 worth of parts. Wanting a different or additional water heater costs loads more and escalates if they need to alter pipework from the original plans.
In relation to the hundreds of thousands of dollars to build a house this doesn’t sound like much but when you are the one paying for it every dollar counts whether it’s $100 or $1000.
That is so perfect! I wish I lived in California, or overseas!
That is so perfect! I wish I lived in California, or overseas!
Forcing markets into something is never a good idea I think. You could in this case be forcing folks to install expensive chargers or solar panels when the market is already making the prices for either drop substantially. This will result in market disruption, lack of innovation and people paying too much.
Forcing markets into something is never a good idea I think. You could in this case be forcing folks to install expensive chargers or solar panels when the market is already making the prices for either drop substantially. This will result in market disruption, lack of innovation and people paying too much.
Matt Casters the real issue is that the construction industry has not done this already by itself. It has to be forced to enable change.
Matt Casters the real issue is that the construction industry has not done this already by itself. It has to be forced to enable change.
Matt Casters True, but with demand comes production & with supply comes a drop in prices, so…
Matt Casters True, but with demand comes production & with supply comes a drop in prices, so…
Well said, Alan Strainer
Well said, Alan Strainer
I call BS folks. Getting a new breaker in the house to hook up the Tesla charger didn’t take much work but it did take work. That work is going to cost the same unless you crank up the price by creating an artificial shortage of skilled labor. And after the peak these installers can go unemployed, right?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for my EV and the solar panels on my roof, but I wouldn’t like anyone trying to force it on me. It’s just too communist for me.
I call BS folks. Getting a new breaker in the house to hook up the Tesla charger didn’t take much work but it did take work. That work is going to cost the same unless you crank up the price by creating an artificial shortage of skilled labor. And after the peak these installers can go unemployed, right?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for my EV and the solar panels on my roof, but I wouldn’t like anyone trying to force it on me. It’s just too communist for me.
Alan Stainer Sorry mate, but a charger really isn’t expensive. A few hundred pounds for a Tesla wall charger? Solar panels keep dropping in price. You’re more likely to hike up the price and create shortages by forcing it on people and especially by reducing competition in the market.
Alan Stainer Sorry mate, but a charger really isn’t expensive. A few hundred pounds for a Tesla wall charger? Solar panels keep dropping in price. You’re more likely to hike up the price and create shortages by forcing it on people and especially by reducing competition in the market.
Matt Casters Sorry mate, but I never said a charger was expensive. I said it would be negligible in comparison to a new house. Governments already create regulations that create demand, like insisting on cavity wall insulation. I don’t see that hiking up the price or causing shortages. The opposite is true and it ends up creating jobs in a new market.
Matt Casters Sorry mate, but I never said a charger was expensive. I said it would be negligible in comparison to a new house. Governments already create regulations that create demand, like insisting on cavity wall insulation. I don’t see that hiking up the price or causing shortages. The opposite is true and it ends up creating jobs in a new market.
Alan, if the chargers aren’t expensive, why try to force the price down? In Belgium they decided to subsidize and regulate the Solar market a bit over a decade ago. It was also based on delusions of grandeur : “we’re going to increase the market, force the price down of solar panels!” Except that this caused the market to explode, lots of companies put solar panels everywhere and a hole got blown in the budget to the tune of €2.5B which we’re still paying for. So they had to stop the lunacy and Solar panel companies went bankrupt all across the country. Panels never got cheaper than in the surrounding countries and the only effect was that a lot of folks got overpriced junk on their roofs. It’s been almost 10 years and we’re still recovering from the lunacy but the panels drop over 95% without any support from governments over the same period.. Just be very careful what you wish for is all I’m saying. These ideas can actually set you back for years.
Alan, if the chargers aren’t expensive, why try to force the price down? In Belgium they decided to subsidize and regulate the Solar market a bit over a decade ago. It was also based on delusions of grandeur : “we’re going to increase the market, force the price down of solar panels!” Except that this caused the market to explode, lots of companies put solar panels everywhere and a hole got blown in the budget to the tune of €2.5B which we’re still paying for. So they had to stop the lunacy and Solar panel companies went bankrupt all across the country. Panels never got cheaper than in the surrounding countries and the only effect was that a lot of folks got overpriced junk on their roofs. It’s been almost 10 years and we’re still recovering from the lunacy but the panels drop over 95% without any support from governments over the same period.. Just be very careful what you wish for is all I’m saying. These ideas can actually set you back for years.
How is the electricity to be produced? Electric vehicles can be responsible for more pollution than fossil fuel vehicles
How is the electricity to be produced? Electric vehicles can be responsible for more pollution than fossil fuel vehicles
steven durnford it doesn’t matter how electricity is produced. Gas engines are so inefficient that you could make electricity from the dirtiest coal possible and still come out ahead, even if you count the extra CO2 from the battery production. But fortunately the world’s electricity grid are becoming much greener every year.
steven durnford it doesn’t matter how electricity is produced. Gas engines are so inefficient that you could make electricity from the dirtiest coal possible and still come out ahead, even if you count the extra CO2 from the battery production. But fortunately the world’s electricity grid are becoming much greener every year.
steven durnford I don’t know where you got that from, because it flies in the face of facts.
steven durnford I don’t know where you got that from, because it flies in the face of facts.