Tesla battery races to save Australia grid from coal plant crash – injecting 7MW in milliseconds
Tesla batteries and the Hornsdale Power Reserve specifically, are doing exactly what they are intended to do. It is another nail in the coffin for fossil fuel based power plants, which could never react to changes on the grid so quickly.
https://electrek.co/2017/12/19/tesla-battery-save-australia-grid-from-coal-plant-crash/
https://electrek.co/2017/12/19/tesla-battery-save-australia-grid-from-coal-plant-crash/
Maybe too late for South Africa. Twenty kilometers from where I live one of the biggest coal fueled power stations in Africa are being built with the capacity of approximately 4000 MW.
Maybe too late for South Africa. Twenty kilometers from where I live one of the biggest coal fueled power stations in Africa are being built with the capacity of approximately 4000 MW.
Maybe too late for South Africa. Twenty kilometers from where I live one of the biggest coal fueled power stations in Africa are being built with the capacity of approximately 4000 MW.
Jaco Venter that must be disappointing. For me I am also a bit surprised, because economically it is proving to be a bad idea to still be using coal.
Jaco Venter that must be disappointing. For me I am also a bit surprised, because economically it is proving to be a bad idea to still be using coal.
Jaco Venter that must be disappointing. For me I am also a bit surprised, because economically it is proving to be a bad idea to still be using coal.
A 560 MW coaler tripped. The battery supplied 1% of the shortage for 1 minute.
Not much to write home about.
A 560 MW coaler tripped. The battery supplied 1% of the shortage for 1 minute.
Not much to write home about.
A 560 MW coaler tripped. The battery supplied 1% of the shortage for 1 minute.
Not much to write home about.
“The key change with the new trends is that we have moved on from predicting what might happen in the future to measuring it, seeing it happen. The only question is just how fast the growth trend is – fast or very fast? ” http://reneweconomy.com.au/2018-when-battery-storage-gets-a-grip-on-the-grid-37990/#sthash.KwqozEdB.uxfs
“The key change with the new trends is that we have moved on from predicting what might happen in the future to measuring it, seeing it happen. The only question is just how fast the growth trend is – fast or very fast? ” http://reneweconomy.com.au/2018-when-battery-storage-gets-a-grip-on-the-grid-37990/#sthash.KwqozEdB.uxfs
“The key change with the new trends is that we have moved on from predicting what might happen in the future to measuring it, seeing it happen. The only question is just how fast the growth trend is – fast or very fast? ” http://reneweconomy.com.au/2018-when-battery-storage-gets-a-grip-on-the-grid-37990/#sthash.KwqozEdB.uxfs
+Alan we have so much coal reserves that it can last for another two hundred and fifty years. And South Africa is for most part still a third world country. Where coal is still used for heating and cooking especially in the informal settlements and on some farms.
+Alan we have so much coal reserves that it can last for another two hundred and fifty years. And South Africa is for most part still a third world country. Where coal is still used for heating and cooking especially in the informal settlements and on some farms.
+Alan we have so much coal reserves that it can last for another two hundred and fifty years. And South Africa is for most part still a third world country. Where coal is still used for heating and cooking especially in the informal settlements and on some farms.
The coal may be there but when it becomes uneconomic to run the coal power plant, it will shut down.
It is all about the money.
The coal may be there but when it becomes uneconomic to run the coal power plant, it will shut down.
It is all about the money.
The coal may be there but when it becomes uneconomic to run the coal power plant, it will shut down.
It is all about the money.
7 MW is a lot of power!
7 MW is a lot of power!
7 MW is a lot of power!
When the cost of Climate Change and the health impact of exhaust pollution is included, coal is already uneconomic.
When the cost of Climate Change and the health impact of exhaust pollution is included, coal is already uneconomic.
When the cost of Climate Change and the health impact of exhaust pollution is included, coal is already uneconomic.
Mac Baird I agree this is true in a perfect utopia, but unfortunately we do not live in a perfect utopia.
Mac Baird I agree this is true in a perfect utopia, but unfortunately we do not live in a perfect utopia.
Mac Baird I agree this is true in a perfect utopia, but unfortunately we do not live in a perfect utopia.
Compared to well built horse and carriages the first gasoline automobiles were sputter, putt, kapows. These are all the first industrial size renewable energy operations. The room for growth and development is large as the lure of energy independence no matter what corner of the globe you live on is gradually being realized.
Compared to well built horse and carriages the first gasoline automobiles were sputter, putt, kapows. These are all the first industrial size renewable energy operations. The room for growth and development is large as the lure of energy independence no matter what corner of the globe you live on is gradually being realized.
Compared to well built horse and carriages the first gasoline automobiles were sputter, putt, kapows. These are all the first industrial size renewable energy operations. The room for growth and development is large as the lure of energy independence no matter what corner of the globe you live on is gradually being realized.
J Miller We do not live in a utopia in the present, but we are on the path to get there in the future. Technology is advancing at an accelerating rate.
J Miller We do not live in a utopia in the present, but we are on the path to get there in the future. Technology is advancing at an accelerating rate.
J Miller We do not live in a utopia in the present, but we are on the path to get there in the future. Technology is advancing at an accelerating rate.
I think when monitary greed is no longer around, then people will actually do something about our environment.
Until then it is an after thought for most people.
I think when monitary greed is no longer around, then people will actually do something about our environment.
Until then it is an after thought for most people.
I think when monitary greed is no longer around, then people will actually do something about our environment.
Until then it is an after thought for most people.
Jaco Venter There are positive impacts from shutting down coal plants, for example …
sciencedaily.com – Shutdown of coal-fired power plant results in significant fetal health improvement in downwind areas
Jaco Venter There are positive impacts from shutting down coal plants, for example …
sciencedaily.com – Shutdown of coal-fired power plant results in significant fetal health improvement in downwind areas
Jaco Venter There are positive impacts from shutting down coal plants, for example …
sciencedaily.com – Shutdown of coal-fired power plant results in significant fetal health improvement in downwind areas
Mac Baird The company who is building this power plant is generating 95 percent of all the electricity in South Africa and 45 percent in Africa and most of it is using coal. The other is solar, hydro, diesel (for emergency power generation using turbines) and nuclear. They have the only nuclear plant in Africa and it is generating 1800 MW. And as J Miller said it is all about money.
Mac Baird The company who is building this power plant is generating 95 percent of all the electricity in South Africa and 45 percent in Africa and most of it is using coal. The other is solar, hydro, diesel (for emergency power generation using turbines) and nuclear. They have the only nuclear plant in Africa and it is generating 1800 MW. And as J Miller said it is all about money.
Mac Baird The company who is building this power plant is generating 95 percent of all the electricity in South Africa and 45 percent in Africa and most of it is using coal. The other is solar, hydro, diesel (for emergency power generation using turbines) and nuclear. They have the only nuclear plant in Africa and it is generating 1800 MW. And as J Miller said it is all about money.
It is important to remember that Batteries do not actually generate electrical energy; they only store it in a usable form. That being said: there are many applications for grid storage, both with and without renewable energy; to buffer against usage spikes, to even out periods of high demand, and as mentioned to take over during a power failure. Although I’m curious; what is the most optimal scale to work grid storage into; on the scale of a single building, a city, province, or an entire regional area?
It is important to remember that Batteries do not actually generate electrical energy; they only store it in a usable form. That being said: there are many applications for grid storage, both with and without renewable energy; to buffer against usage spikes, to even out periods of high demand, and as mentioned to take over during a power failure. Although I’m curious; what is the most optimal scale to work grid storage into; on the scale of a single building, a city, province, or an entire regional area?
It is important to remember that Batteries do not actually generate electrical energy; they only store it in a usable form. That being said: there are many applications for grid storage, both with and without renewable energy; to buffer against usage spikes, to even out periods of high demand, and as mentioned to take over during a power failure. Although I’m curious; what is the most optimal scale to work grid storage into; on the scale of a single building, a city, province, or an entire regional area?
Nuclear submarines have large batteries to provide emergency power, if the reactor shuts down. In fact, the battery is the temporary source of power to restart the reactor. I suspect batteries will play an increasingly important role in the future greener electrical grid.
Nuclear submarines have large batteries to provide emergency power, if the reactor shuts down. In fact, the battery is the temporary source of power to restart the reactor. I suspect batteries will play an increasingly important role in the future greener electrical grid.
Nuclear submarines have large batteries to provide emergency power, if the reactor shuts down. In fact, the battery is the temporary source of power to restart the reactor. I suspect batteries will play an increasingly important role in the future greener electrical grid.
This is not a Green Technology page, or it would include clean safer, nuclear too. So this is the same as the renewables page?
This is not a Green Technology page, or it would include clean safer, nuclear too. So this is the same as the renewables page?
This is not a Green Technology page, or it would include clean safer, nuclear too. So this is the same as the renewables page?
Ed Pheil I believe I have posted about nuclear before. However, as far as being green goes, nuclear is anything but green. Yes it may be a low carbon solution, but there are far more disastrous implications for the environment when something goes wrong.
Ed Pheil I believe I have posted about nuclear before. However, as far as being green goes, nuclear is anything but green. Yes it may be a low carbon solution, but there are far more disastrous implications for the environment when something goes wrong.
Ed Pheil I believe I have posted about nuclear before. However, as far as being green goes, nuclear is anything but green. Yes it may be a low carbon solution, but there are far more disastrous implications for the environment when something goes wrong.
You are WRONG! Looking at actual num ers, nuclear is by FAR the sagest form of energy. Commercial nuclear has killed absolutely no one in the public from nuclear power. Three full meltdowns at Fukushima Dai ici, with no deaths from the nuclear plants, but fear mongers, like you, killing 1650+ people by unnecessarily requiring an evacuation. Nuclear is the only energy industry that collects and actualy protects the public from its waste, unlike all other energy industries.
You are WRONG! Looking at actual num ers, nuclear is by FAR the sagest form of energy. Commercial nuclear has killed absolutely no one in the public from nuclear power. Three full meltdowns at Fukushima Dai ici, with no deaths from the nuclear plants, but fear mongers, like you, killing 1650+ people by unnecessarily requiring an evacuation. Nuclear is the only energy industry that collects and actualy protects the public from its waste, unlike all other energy industries.
You are WRONG! Looking at actual num ers, nuclear is by FAR the sagest form of energy. Commercial nuclear has killed absolutely no one in the public from nuclear power. Three full meltdowns at Fukushima Dai ici, with no deaths from the nuclear plants, but fear mongers, like you, killing 1650+ people by unnecessarily requiring an evacuation. Nuclear is the only energy industry that collects and actualy protects the public from its waste, unlike all other energy industries.
Ed Pheil you do manage to come across as a bit insane you know.
You are actually trying to convince people that nuclear meltdowns are safe?!
I would also like to counter your arguments with this: When was the last time you ever heard of the renewable energy sector actually needing to protect the public? I’ll give you the answer, because it is a really easy one to grasp. Never. There are no hazardous waste products. There are no meltdowns.
Now don’t even think about retaliating with anymore nonsense, because you will be blocked.
Ed Pheil you do manage to come across as a bit insane you know.
You are actually trying to convince people that nuclear meltdowns are safe?!
I would also like to counter your arguments with this: When was the last time you ever heard of the renewable energy sector actually needing to protect the public? I’ll give you the answer, because it is a really easy one to grasp. Never. There are no hazardous waste products. There are no meltdowns.
Now don’t even think about retaliating with anymore nonsense, because you will be blocked.
Ed Pheil you do manage to come across as a bit insane you know.
You are actually trying to convince people that nuclear meltdowns are safe?!
I would also like to counter your arguments with this: When was the last time you ever heard of the renewable energy sector actually needing to protect the public? I’ll give you the answer, because it is a really easy one to grasp. Never. There are no hazardous waste products. There are no meltdowns.
Now don’t even think about retaliating with anymore nonsense, because you will be blocked.
Ed Pheil If you think Nuclear is so safe, I invite you to travel to Fukushima Japan and pitch a tent in the huge inhabitable zone there. Please tell us how you feel in a few months.
Don’t worry about the costs as I am sure the land is cheap.
It is disturbing how people like you blather on about safe nuclear and live far away from it’s consequences.
Ed Pheil If you think Nuclear is so safe, I invite you to travel to Fukushima Japan and pitch a tent in the huge inhabitable zone there. Please tell us how you feel in a few months.
Don’t worry about the costs as I am sure the land is cheap.
It is disturbing how people like you blather on about safe nuclear and live far away from it’s consequences.
Ed Pheil If you think Nuclear is so safe, I invite you to travel to Fukushima Japan and pitch a tent in the huge inhabitable zone there. Please tell us how you feel in a few months.
Don’t worry about the costs as I am sure the land is cheap.
It is disturbing how people like you blather on about safe nuclear and live far away from it’s consequences.
No deaths from nuclear, says Ed Pheil
Being a fear monger if you think nuclear has killed anyone says Ed Pheil
Wow!
en.wikipedia.org – List of nuclear and radiation accidents by death toll – Wikipedia
I guess I am a fear monger….
Well, an alive fear monger. These people can not say that.
No deaths from nuclear, says Ed Pheil
Being a fear monger if you think nuclear has killed anyone says Ed Pheil
Wow!
en.wikipedia.org – List of nuclear and radiation accidents by death toll – Wikipedia
I guess I am a fear monger….
Well, an alive fear monger. These people can not say that.
No deaths from nuclear, says Ed Pheil
Being a fear monger if you think nuclear has killed anyone says Ed Pheil
Wow!
en.wikipedia.org – List of nuclear and radiation accidents by death toll – Wikipedia
I guess I am a fear monger….
Well, an alive fear monger. These people can not say that.
J Miller Actually, Ed Pheil is correct that far fewer deaths are attributed to nuclear power generation than coal or oil, even when including the big accidents such as in Japan or Russia. Having served 20 years in the US nuclear submarine community, I can attest to the relative safety of the technology. Having said that, the casualty rate for nuclear power accidents is not zero.
the9billion.com – Death Rate From Nuclear Power Vs Coal? This May Surprise You
J Miller Actually, Ed Pheil is correct that far fewer deaths are attributed to nuclear power generation than coal or oil, even when including the big accidents such as in Japan or Russia. Having served 20 years in the US nuclear submarine community, I can attest to the relative safety of the technology. Having said that, the casualty rate for nuclear power accidents is not zero.
the9billion.com – Death Rate From Nuclear Power Vs Coal? This May Surprise You
J Miller Actually, Ed Pheil is correct that far fewer deaths are attributed to nuclear power generation than coal or oil, even when including the big accidents such as in Japan or Russia. Having served 20 years in the US nuclear submarine community, I can attest to the relative safety of the technology. Having said that, the casualty rate for nuclear power accidents is not zero.
the9billion.com – Death Rate From Nuclear Power Vs Coal? This May Surprise You
Mac Baird, actually Ed Pheil was wrong.
“Commercial nuclear has killed absolutely no one in the public from nuclear power”
Of course there would be no nuclear power accidents with nuclear power plants.
The link I provided proves that he is incorrect.
You must live in Bizarro World.
But more than the deaths is the nuclear poison that keeps us from using huge areas of land that become waste lands after an accident on top of that, the waste needs constant attention for hundreds of years to stay cool.
On top of that, the plants cost billions to build and decommission.
If you are still into nuclear after all that, you must have an agenda.
Mac Baird, actually Ed Pheil was wrong.
“Commercial nuclear has killed absolutely no one in the public from nuclear power”
Of course there would be no nuclear power accidents with nuclear power plants.
The link I provided proves that he is incorrect.
You must live in Bizarro World.
But more than the deaths is the nuclear poison that keeps us from using huge areas of land that become waste lands after an accident on top of that, the waste needs constant attention for hundreds of years to stay cool.
On top of that, the plants cost billions to build and decommission.
If you are still into nuclear after all that, you must have an agenda.
Mac Baird, actually Ed Pheil was wrong.
“Commercial nuclear has killed absolutely no one in the public from nuclear power”
Of course there would be no nuclear power accidents with nuclear power plants.
The link I provided proves that he is incorrect.
You must live in Bizarro World.
But more than the deaths is the nuclear poison that keeps us from using huge areas of land that become waste lands after an accident on top of that, the waste needs constant attention for hundreds of years to stay cool.
On top of that, the plants cost billions to build and decommission.
If you are still into nuclear after all that, you must have an agenda.
J Miller No immediate deaths in the public, but a significant number of cancer deaths due to radioactive contamination or exposure worldwide. The following link lists the accident fatalities just in the US.
en.wikipedia.org – Nuclear reactor accidents in the United States – Wikipedia
J Miller No immediate deaths in the public, but a significant number of cancer deaths due to radioactive contamination or exposure worldwide. The following link lists the accident fatalities just in the US.
en.wikipedia.org – Nuclear reactor accidents in the United States – Wikipedia
J Miller No immediate deaths in the public, but a significant number of cancer deaths due to radioactive contamination or exposure worldwide. The following link lists the accident fatalities just in the US.
en.wikipedia.org – Nuclear reactor accidents in the United States – Wikipedia
There were at least 38 deaths of people directly related to the Chernobyl explosion admitted by Russia that died at or near the reactor. Some were plant workers some were other occupations and sub contractors. This could be considered “the public”. The notion that nuclear power accidents have not killed anyone directly is just wrong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
en.m.wikipedia.org – Deaths due to the Chernobyl disaster – Wikipedia
There were at least 38 deaths of people directly related to the Chernobyl explosion admitted by Russia that died at or near the reactor. Some were plant workers some were other occupations and sub contractors. This could be considered “the public”. The notion that nuclear power accidents have not killed anyone directly is just wrong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
en.m.wikipedia.org – Deaths due to the Chernobyl disaster – Wikipedia
There were at least 38 deaths of people directly related to the Chernobyl explosion admitted by Russia that died at or near the reactor. Some were plant workers some were other occupations and sub contractors. This could be considered “the public”. The notion that nuclear power accidents have not killed anyone directly is just wrong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
en.m.wikipedia.org – Deaths due to the Chernobyl disaster – Wikipedia