Solar-Panel Roads To Be Built Across Four Continents Next Year
It looks like solar roads are more likely to become a reality. Assuming the testing goes well of course. It would open up massive potential for electrical energy production.
h/t Renaud Janson
Анжела Серегина says
Очень актуально там, где позволяет климат. Если полгода лежит снег, солнечные батареи можно ставить только на крутой крыше…
Анжела Серегина says
Очень актуально там, где позволяет климат. Если полгода лежит снег, солнечные батареи можно ставить только на крутой крыше…
Alan Stainer says
Анжела Серегина that is a good point with regards to snow cover. There should never be a reliance on any one technology for generating energy though. The greater the mix, the more secure the supply of electricity will be.
Alan Stainer says
Анжела Серегина that is a good point with regards to snow cover. There should never be a reliance on any one technology for generating energy though. The greater the mix, the more secure the supply of electricity will be.
Daise Flowers says
Love’s good news!
Daise Flowers says
Love’s good news!
Kenneth C Fetters jr (Ken) says
Like this very much .The Planet must change Collectively as one .
Kenneth C Fetters jr (Ken) says
Like this very much .The Planet must change Collectively as one .
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
My understanding of the snow issue is that the panels would also have either residual heat or some form of heat production to prevent snow buildup. I may be mis-remembering but I seem to recall something like this from Solar-Roadways’ project
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
My understanding of the snow issue is that the panels would also have either residual heat or some form of heat production to prevent snow buildup. I may be mis-remembering but I seem to recall something like this from Solar-Roadways’ project
Daise Flowers says
Kenneth C Fetters jr If greed will allow change for the good of all.
Daise Flowers says
Kenneth C Fetters jr If greed will allow change for the good of all.
Alan Stainer says
That would make sense Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith
Alan Stainer says
That would make sense Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith
FP Haecker I says
That’s good, clean energy.
FP Haecker I says
That’s good, clean energy.
RayBarK says
What a useless project. If you built normal solar panels above the road it would be cheaper and much more effective without cars blocking out the sun every two seconds.
RayBarK says
What a useless project. If you built normal solar panels above the road it would be cheaper and much more effective without cars blocking out the sun every two seconds.
Josain Zsun says
RayBarK Good point. I also wonder about traction, dirt/mud/snow/ice/litter blockage.
Josain Zsun says
RayBarK Good point. I also wonder about traction, dirt/mud/snow/ice/litter blockage.
Chuck Potchen says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith I was just going to say that about the ability of a road to keep itself clear of snow.
Chuck Potchen says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith I was just going to say that about the ability of a road to keep itself clear of snow.
Karen Earle says
About damn time
Karen Earle says
About damn time
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Looks like my memory of Solar Roadways implementation was correct: http://www.solarroadways.com/Specifics/Heating
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Looks like my memory of Solar Roadways implementation was correct: http://www.solarroadways.com/Specifics/Heating
Plautus Satire says
Now we just need to roof over parking lots and cover those roofs with photovoltaic panels
Plautus Satire says
Now we just need to roof over parking lots and cover those roofs with photovoltaic panels
Alan Stainer says
Even if the energy cost to heat the roads meant there was no electricity going into the grid, it’s still a good idea, because it would make the roads safer and allow traffic to flow more quickly.
Alan Stainer says
Even if the energy cost to heat the roads meant there was no electricity going into the grid, it’s still a good idea, because it would make the roads safer and allow traffic to flow more quickly.
Johan Myréen says
The snow cover is not the biggest problem, but the studded winter tires, which would destroy the panels in one month.
Johan Myréen says
The snow cover is not the biggest problem, but the studded winter tires, which would destroy the panels in one month.
Plautus Satire says
About snow and ice, when there is snow and ice that’s when there’s the last amount of energy from the sun so who cares
Plautus Satire says
About snow and ice, when there is snow and ice that’s when there’s the last amount of energy from the sun so who cares
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
It’s funny to read all the arguments against the initiative as if the companies that are in this business haven’t thought about it at all
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
It’s funny to read all the arguments against the initiative as if the companies that are in this business haven’t thought about it at all
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
I mean, am I the only one who lives in a country where the asphalt roads are just littered with potholes? Surely the road designers should have thought about this very dangerous issue before building those roads
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
I mean, am I the only one who lives in a country where the asphalt roads are just littered with potholes? Surely the road designers should have thought about this very dangerous issue before building those roads
Tony Adah says
From the way we are going very soon there’ll be dearth in the energy of the sun.
Tony Adah says
From the way we are going very soon there’ll be dearth in the energy of the sun.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Tony Adah dearth? As in “becoming scarce”? If that were the case there might be a very slight chance that natural variations could counteract the effects of global climate change but sadly this isn’t the case.
The sun isn’t going any dimmer if that’s what you’re suggesting
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Tony Adah dearth? As in “becoming scarce”? If that were the case there might be a very slight chance that natural variations could counteract the effects of global climate change but sadly this isn’t the case.
The sun isn’t going any dimmer if that’s what you’re suggesting
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith oh are you privy to all the future output of the sun? That’s fantastic. Your assurances are very comforting.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith oh are you privy to all the future output of the sun? That’s fantastic. Your assurances are very comforting.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire I’m not “privy” to anything but I keep myself informed with Astronomical research
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire I’m not “privy” to anything but I keep myself informed with Astronomical research
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith oh I suppose the confusion here is caused by your bald pronouncement that “the sun isn’t going any dimmer“. And what’s the basis for that claim, exactly? Such a claim indeed suggests you are “privy“ to all the sun’s future output.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith oh I suppose the confusion here is caused by your bald pronouncement that “the sun isn’t going any dimmer“. And what’s the basis for that claim, exactly? Such a claim indeed suggests you are “privy“ to all the sun’s future output.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire well really it depends on whether you want an answer within a single solar cycle or as a mean solar irradiation output on a much longer scale.
Within each solar cycle there are small changes in solar output which can (or could, there’s some debate on whether this is even still the case now with all that CO2 in the atmosphere messing up everything) affect local weather patterns.
But in terms of the much longer scale, well the sun being predicted to increase in volume (and thus energy output) in the next few billion years is the basis on my “bold claim” (basic science actually).
Of course you’re welcome to find me some peer-reviewed science papers and research that suggest otherwise.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire well really it depends on whether you want an answer within a single solar cycle or as a mean solar irradiation output on a much longer scale.
Within each solar cycle there are small changes in solar output which can (or could, there’s some debate on whether this is even still the case now with all that CO2 in the atmosphere messing up everything) affect local weather patterns.
But in terms of the much longer scale, well the sun being predicted to increase in volume (and thus energy output) in the next few billion years is the basis on my “bold claim” (basic science actually).
Of course you’re welcome to find me some peer-reviewed science papers and research that suggest otherwise.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith carbon dioxide has utterly no effect on climate
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith carbon dioxide has utterly no effect on climate
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire Ah you’re one of them are you? No use wasting my time with science then.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire Ah you’re one of them are you? No use wasting my time with science then.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith your “predictions“ about the sun’s output, based on the thoroughly discredited stellar fusion models, can only ever be right by accident. The sun is not a self-compressed ball of gas undergoing fusion. Gases do not under any circumstance compress themselves, they expand to fill the available space. The sun is a rock lit by electric discharge.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith your “predictions“ about the sun’s output, based on the thoroughly discredited stellar fusion models, can only ever be right by accident. The sun is not a self-compressed ball of gas undergoing fusion. Gases do not under any circumstance compress themselves, they expand to fill the available space. The sun is a rock lit by electric discharge.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith “peer review“ is an irrelevant political process that is not part of the scientific method and therefore not part of science.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith “peer review“ is an irrelevant political process that is not part of the scientific method and therefore not part of science.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Dude I’m sorry but I don’t give a damn what you say, you completely discredited yourself (twice). Good luck with your pseudo-science
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Dude I’m sorry but I don’t give a damn what you say, you completely discredited yourself (twice). Good luck with your pseudo-science
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith for someone who claims to be “informed with astronomical research“ it’s odd that you seem to know only fantasies about the sun
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith for someone who claims to be “informed with astronomical research“ it’s odd that you seem to know only fantasies about the sun
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire The only fantasies I’ve read came from you. Look you’ve said nothing of actual scientific substance so don’t expect me to engage with you anymore. You can have the last word for all I care but I’m done
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Plautus Satire The only fantasies I’ve read came from you. Look you’ve said nothing of actual scientific substance so don’t expect me to engage with you anymore. You can have the last word for all I care but I’m done
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith before I consider taking anything you say seriously could you please describe or define the scientific method?
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith before I consider taking anything you say seriously could you please describe or define the scientific method?
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
No
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
No
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith since you’re unable to define the scientific method I think it’s safe to ignore any of your bald pronouncements masquerading as science
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith since you’re unable to define the scientific method I think it’s safe to ignore any of your bald pronouncements masquerading as science
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Oh I’m sorry but like I said I have better things to do that trying to make up for your lack of education. If you want to know about the scientific method, just go to school, it’s not my job to teach you.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Oh I’m sorry but like I said I have better things to do that trying to make up for your lack of education. If you want to know about the scientific method, just go to school, it’s not my job to teach you.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith I know, understand and use the scientific method. You do not and you have nothing to teach me.
Plautus Satire says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith I know, understand and use the scientific method. You do not and you have nothing to teach me.
Marc Ave says
dumb… Humans are getting dumber. Solar panels as roads is a cute idea, but should not have even made it to paper. Panels laying flat on the ground will not capture the energy you need for any period of time. Glass is brittle and prone to breaking, scratching and not having any ability to grip anything rolling over its surface. I like that people are curious about tech and science but articles like this prove there is widespread scientific illiteracy on many of the websites. Even the discovery channel puts a lot of pseudo science on their youtube.
Marc Ave says
dumb… Humans are getting dumber. Solar panels as roads is a cute idea, but should not have even made it to paper. Panels laying flat on the ground will not capture the energy you need for any period of time. Glass is brittle and prone to breaking, scratching and not having any ability to grip anything rolling over its surface. I like that people are curious about tech and science but articles like this prove there is widespread scientific illiteracy on many of the websites. Even the discovery channel puts a lot of pseudo science on their youtube.
Jeff Motter says
Dumb
Jeff Motter says
Dumb
Jeff Motter says
Sidewalk’s is One thing, road’s under thousands of pounds of pressure is just dumb
Jeff Motter says
Sidewalk’s is One thing, road’s under thousands of pounds of pressure is just dumb
Plautus Satire says
Marc Ave glass is an amazing compound, the properties of which can be tailored to an almost absurd degree. It’s not all “brittle“ or frictionless.
Plautus Satire says
Marc Ave glass is an amazing compound, the properties of which can be tailored to an almost absurd degree. It’s not all “brittle“ or frictionless.
PGGaming 100 says
So cool!
PGGaming 100 says
So cool!
Paul Wayper says
I’m extremely sceptical of this. This thread has already detailed most of the ways this project fails – it’s inefficient and prone to breakage and degradation. There are much better places to put these solar panels – parking lots, on buildings, etc, not the places where people and cars actually have to traverse. And the trials so far have borne this out.
I’m all for progress, and I really want something like this to succeed. But the business case is crazy.
Paul Wayper says
I’m extremely sceptical of this. This thread has already detailed most of the ways this project fails – it’s inefficient and prone to breakage and degradation. There are much better places to put these solar panels – parking lots, on buildings, etc, not the places where people and cars actually have to traverse. And the trials so far have borne this out.
I’m all for progress, and I really want something like this to succeed. But the business case is crazy.
Paul Wayper says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith good work ignoring the science denier. “The sun is a ball of rock” – LOL :-) I’d love to see their proof of that.
Paul Wayper says
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith good work ignoring the science denier. “The sun is a ball of rock” – LOL :-) I’d love to see their proof of that.
Plautus Satire says
Paul Wayper there is abundant proof that the sun is a rock. Primarily there are direct observations, from TRACE, SOHO and a slew of other solar observing satellites, of the rigid surface beneath the photosphere. Spectral data indicates that the surface is calcium rich and iron rich rock.
Plautus Satire says
Paul Wayper there is abundant proof that the sun is a rock. Primarily there are direct observations, from TRACE, SOHO and a slew of other solar observing satellites, of the rigid surface beneath the photosphere. Spectral data indicates that the surface is calcium rich and iron rich rock.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Paul Wayper the interesting thing is the idea has been around for a few years now and with so many people outlining the astronomical costs associated with it I really expected it to be one of those “would have been nice” projects but the truth is it keeps popping up as something people want to implement across the world. I think with the price of photovoltaics falling it’s becoming more feasible to at least test on some viable scale.
Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith says
Paul Wayper the interesting thing is the idea has been around for a few years now and with so many people outlining the astronomical costs associated with it I really expected it to be one of those “would have been nice” projects but the truth is it keeps popping up as something people want to implement across the world. I think with the price of photovoltaics falling it’s becoming more feasible to at least test on some viable scale.
Elvis Hui says
that’s awesome!
Elvis Hui says
that’s awesome!
Elvis Hui says
Ask a silly question, how to prevent the car won’t be crushed?
Elvis Hui says
Ask a silly question, how to prevent the car won’t be crushed?
Paul Wayper says
Hi Elvis Rong – if you mean “why won’t the weight of the car crack the panel”, I think the general idea is that if the panel is completely solid (with no spaces for air) and is on a solid foundation, then the force is transmitted directly through and the panel won’t crack.
The two questions then are whether the panel is compressible at all – e.g. does it use a filler material with a different expansion rate, or is it on a base which can flex at all – and whether other damage would affect the panel’s surface (e.g. scratching). Either one could damage the panel enough to either break the links between individual segments or cause a segment to conduct less electricity, which in turn starts damaging the panel as a whole.
Paul Wayper says
Hi Elvis Rong – if you mean “why won’t the weight of the car crack the panel”, I think the general idea is that if the panel is completely solid (with no spaces for air) and is on a solid foundation, then the force is transmitted directly through and the panel won’t crack.
The two questions then are whether the panel is compressible at all – e.g. does it use a filler material with a different expansion rate, or is it on a base which can flex at all – and whether other damage would affect the panel’s surface (e.g. scratching). Either one could damage the panel enough to either break the links between individual segments or cause a segment to conduct less electricity, which in turn starts damaging the panel as a whole.
Plautus Satire says
Paul Wayper if you actually read the article it explains the “glass” is actually a composite of layers of different types of plastic and coated with a layer of non-slip material made from crushed glass
Plautus Satire says
Paul Wayper if you actually read the article it explains the “glass” is actually a composite of layers of different types of plastic and coated with a layer of non-slip material made from crushed glass
Lifetime Pig says
great
Lifetime Pig says
great
Elvis Hui says
Paul Wayper Thank you! l knew a lot.
Elvis Hui says
Paul Wayper Thank you! l knew a lot.
Edilberto F Rivera C says
les deseamos muchos exitos felicitaciones
Edilberto F Rivera C says
les deseamos muchos exitos felicitaciones
Edward Seiler says
Let’s all hope that they payout.
Edward Seiler says
Let’s all hope that they payout.
Enrique Reyes says
Exciting.
More jobs.
Less carbon.
Enrique Reyes says
Exciting.
More jobs.
Less carbon.
mahesh suthari says
Nice
mahesh suthari says
Nice
Ibrahima Thiabou says
Moi je suis un étudiant en 2BT électrique, j’aime beaucoup l’énergie solaire et je veux plus d’aide pour que je puisse poursuivre mes études.
Ibrahima Thiabou says
Moi je suis un étudiant en 2BT électrique, j’aime beaucoup l’énergie solaire et je veux plus d’aide pour que je puisse poursuivre mes études.
Abebe Haregewione says
it is amazing.
Abebe Haregewione says
it is amazing.
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