Dale talks Green Gas with Robert Llewellyn
One of the arguments against green energy sources is “What about gas?” People even say we need fracking, because there isn’t any other way.
Well that is wrong and Ecotricity are doing something about it. I especially liked Dale’s mention right at the end of the video, that Ecotricity plan to submit planning applications for new grass fed gas installations at the same sites as every single fracking application.
If you present a viable (and green) alternative to fracking, why would you frack?
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Good idea but what about Crops and Trees ?
Good idea but what about Crops and Trees ?
What about crops and trees? There is a lot of unused grassland around the country already, plus this would convert a lot of areas into wildlife habitats.
What about crops and trees? There is a lot of unused grassland around the country already, plus this would convert a lot of areas into wildlife habitats.
Exactly Alan, fracking is a very short term and unsustainable choice, good for no one except the person that own the whole and make the profit, for everybody else fracking is an incredibly bad energy choice with long-lasting negative side effects for the area where you drill. And when we consider just how many real and clean energy choices we already have and how quickly they improve, fracking is simply put never needed, it´s demand is solely being driven by a few greedy business men.
Exactly Alan, fracking is a very short term and unsustainable choice, good for no one except the person that own the whole and make the profit, for everybody else fracking is an incredibly bad energy choice with long-lasting negative side effects for the area where you drill. And when we consider just how many real and clean energy choices we already have and how quickly they improve, fracking is simply put never needed, it´s demand is solely being driven by a few greedy business men.
Alan don’t get me wrong , if this would work , Great . I’m all for it . Just want to understand the whole picture .
Alan don’t get me wrong , if this would work , Great . I’m all for it . Just want to understand the whole picture .
Kenneth C Fetters jr I am the same. However, the alternative (fracking) is definitely on the list of controversial and potentially dangerous technologies. The grass in this case really does look greener.
Kenneth C Fetters jr I am the same. However, the alternative (fracking) is definitely on the list of controversial and potentially dangerous technologies. The grass in this case really does look greener.
Alan I live just south of Philadelphia . I would love to retire to a small farm in North Central Pennsylvania . Fracking is happening there but its mostly mountainous so growing Crops and Fruit bearing Trees and Grapes for wine is in question . Only so much cleared Land for the open fields and the Rocks the Mountainous regions A definite conflict . I wish there was a balance but I don’t see it .
Alan I live just south of Philadelphia . I would love to retire to a small farm in North Central Pennsylvania . Fracking is happening there but its mostly mountainous so growing Crops and Fruit bearing Trees and Grapes for wine is in question . Only so much cleared Land for the open fields and the Rocks the Mountainous regions A definite conflict . I wish there was a balance but I don’t see it .
Solar, wind ( land and off shore ), all the variants of ground, water, sea, and soon perhaps fusion, but fusion isnt even needed to power the entire planet with nothing but green and sustainable choices. Plenty of great long term energy solutions that are far more clean and financially sound long term, than the unsustainable options.
So no conflict really, except some financially invested fossil fuel people crying croco tears about it, and of course, some confused and scared people depending on that for their income. But there isnt a single fossil fuel worker which needs to be displaced if the fossil fuel companies simply shifted focus ( which plenty of them already have/do around the world ).
Solar, wind ( land and off shore ), all the variants of ground, water, sea, and soon perhaps fusion, but fusion isnt even needed to power the entire planet with nothing but green and sustainable choices. Plenty of great long term energy solutions that are far more clean and financially sound long term, than the unsustainable options.
So no conflict really, except some financially invested fossil fuel people crying croco tears about it, and of course, some confused and scared people depending on that for their income. But there isnt a single fossil fuel worker which needs to be displaced if the fossil fuel companies simply shifted focus ( which plenty of them already have/do around the world ).
Solar and Wind are the answer . But Big Oil does not know what to do with all those Big Tankers at sea .
Solar and Wind are the answer . But Big Oil does not know what to do with all those Big Tankers at sea .
Gas Methane is a greenhouse gas itself as well as producing CO2 when it burns so this ends up in the atmosphere and causes more climate change so how is this a solution to global warming?
Gas Methane is a greenhouse gas itself as well as producing CO2 when it burns so this ends up in the atmosphere and causes more climate change so how is this a solution to global warming?
Solar, Wind w/Super Caps and HHO.
Solar, Wind w/Super Caps and HHO.
Randall Parr the difference is that gas produced using grass is carbon that is already part of the system. Gas that has been mined, which has been locked away for millions of years, is carbon that is being added to the system. On a day to day basis it may not seem like there is any difference, but really there is.
Randall Parr the difference is that gas produced using grass is carbon that is already part of the system. Gas that has been mined, which has been locked away for millions of years, is carbon that is being added to the system. On a day to day basis it may not seem like there is any difference, but really there is.
Well, if we are going to get totally down to it, any form of plants we burn up result in less plants sucking up carbon. Plants store a lot of our pollution, trap heat and so forth. So sure, this is way better than fracking and oil and burning trees. But still not as good as going with any of the real sustainable options.
Well, if we are going to get totally down to it, any form of plants we burn up result in less plants sucking up carbon. Plants store a lot of our pollution, trap heat and so forth. So sure, this is way better than fracking and oil and burning trees. But still not as good as going with any of the real sustainable options.
Alan Stainer Grass is solid carbon compounds while Methane contains gaseous carbon compounds. Converting grass to Methane makes it part of the problem because some will leak into the atmosphere. If any of it is burned it becomes CO2 which will wind up in the atmosphere CO2 is also a greenhouse gas. Methane is a greenhouse gas.
Alan Stainer Grass is solid carbon compounds while Methane contains gaseous carbon compounds. Converting grass to Methane makes it part of the problem because some will leak into the atmosphere. If any of it is burned it becomes CO2 which will wind up in the atmosphere CO2 is also a greenhouse gas. Methane is a greenhouse gas.
Kenneth C Fetters jr Those tankers must have a lot of scrap metal that could be sold for salvage.
Kenneth C Fetters jr Those tankers must have a lot of scrap metal that could be sold for salvage.
You are approaching the end of the Carbon Energy Era when all the producers of cheap conventional energy reserves fight for market share, keeping the commodity price below the breakeven production cost of the unconventional producers. All the cheap low hanging fruit has been picked, and we are now on the back side of the production bell curve. When the cheap stuff is gone in the next decade or so, the commodity price will rise rapidly through demand destruction. If energy alternatives are not ready, the global economy will collapse.
srsroccoreport.com – END OF THE U.S. MAJOR OIL INDUSTRY ERA: Big Trouble At ExxonMobil
You are approaching the end of the Carbon Energy Era when all the producers of cheap conventional energy reserves fight for market share, keeping the commodity price below the breakeven production cost of the unconventional producers. All the cheap low hanging fruit has been picked, and we are now on the back side of the production bell curve. When the cheap stuff is gone in the next decade or so, the commodity price will rise rapidly through demand destruction. If energy alternatives are not ready, the global economy will collapse.
srsroccoreport.com – END OF THE U.S. MAJOR OIL INDUSTRY ERA: Big Trouble At ExxonMobil
Mac Baird
Not until they do their damn best to destroy as much as they can in order to get a new angle on enslaving society.
Mac Baird
Not until they do their damn best to destroy as much as they can in order to get a new angle on enslaving society.
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Mac Baird
The price of fossil fuel will rise as you said if reasonably priced renewable alternatives are not available on the market. If they are and the public moves massively to clean heat and transportation the demand for fossil fuels will fall and its price will fall as well. That appears to be be happening.
Exxon is having financial problems already even though high range electric cars are not yet readily available.
Mac Baird
The price of fossil fuel will rise as you said if reasonably priced renewable alternatives are not available on the market. If they are and the public moves massively to clean heat and transportation the demand for fossil fuels will fall and its price will fall as well. That appears to be be happening.
Exxon is having financial problems already even though high range electric cars are not yet readily available.
Randall Parr
Oversupply continues to be the price driver today. Producers fight for market share. Eventually, supply of cheap conventional oil drops off and price climbs above breakeven for unconventional oil production to return. Higher oil price will drive a steady increase in demand for alternative fuels. It is estimated that we have about 10 years of cheap oil left in reserve. All the oil producers on the planet are suffering from lower revenue, but they don’t trust each other enough to cap production.
Randall Parr
Oversupply continues to be the price driver today. Producers fight for market share. Eventually, supply of cheap conventional oil drops off and price climbs above breakeven for unconventional oil production to return. Higher oil price will drive a steady increase in demand for alternative fuels. It is estimated that we have about 10 years of cheap oil left in reserve. All the oil producers on the planet are suffering from lower revenue, but they don’t trust each other enough to cap production.
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