Microsoft thought of the children and decided to ban some browsers
You have got to be kidding Microsoft. Do you remember the antitrust cases brought against you for anticompetitive practices relating to Internet Explorer?
h/t Hugh McVea
Alan Stainer
Tech head through and through.
Fairly typical Micro$oft behaviour though Alan Stainer ie if we are losing to the competition then we will block them out of the market.
Then there is the Windows 10 upgrade that imposes Edge as the default browser. That one took a little getting around but I got Chrome back fairly quickly.
The Windows 10 PC here is on permanent alert because there is a Ubuntu bootable USB sat in front of it.
Fairly typical Micro$oft behaviour though Alan Stainer ie if we are losing to the competition then we will block them out of the market.
Then there is the Windows 10 upgrade that imposes Edge as the default browser. That one took a little getting around but I got Chrome back fairly quickly.
The Windows 10 PC here is on permanent alert because there is a Ubuntu bootable USB sat in front of it.
Fairly typical Micro$oft behaviour though Alan Stainer ie if we are losing to the competition then we will block them out of the market.
Then there is the Windows 10 upgrade that imposes Edge as the default browser. That one took a little getting around but I got Chrome back fairly quickly.
The Windows 10 PC here is on permanent alert because there is a Ubuntu bootable USB sat in front of it.
Fairly typical Micro$oft behaviour though Alan Stainer ie if we are losing to the competition then we will block them out of the market.
Then there is the Windows 10 upgrade that imposes Edge as the default browser. That one took a little getting around but I got Chrome back fairly quickly.
The Windows 10 PC here is on permanent alert because there is a Ubuntu bootable USB sat in front of it.
I’m so annoyed by MS. They are working hard at convincing people that auto updates aren’t worth the trouble making themselves less secure in order to stop being nagged or “updated” to broken drivers in a Windows circle of life that is more of a nuisance than it ever has been.
Now, they break browsers in order to “protect the children”. Meanwhile the browser users think it’s Chrome or Safari that are broken, and when they find out MS did it intentionally, they’ll stop using the children’s filter because usage will become too complicated.
They can’t make a good decision to save their lives.
I’m so annoyed by MS. They are working hard at convincing people that auto updates aren’t worth the trouble making themselves less secure in order to stop being nagged or “updated” to broken drivers in a Windows circle of life that is more of a nuisance than it ever has been.
Now, they break browsers in order to “protect the children”. Meanwhile the browser users think it’s Chrome or Safari that are broken, and when they find out MS did it intentionally, they’ll stop using the children’s filter because usage will become too complicated.
They can’t make a good decision to save their lives.
I’m so annoyed by MS. They are working hard at convincing people that auto updates aren’t worth the trouble making themselves less secure in order to stop being nagged or “updated” to broken drivers in a Windows circle of life that is more of a nuisance than it ever has been.
Now, they break browsers in order to “protect the children”. Meanwhile the browser users think it’s Chrome or Safari that are broken, and when they find out MS did it intentionally, they’ll stop using the children’s filter because usage will become too complicated.
They can’t make a good decision to save their lives.
I’m so annoyed by MS. They are working hard at convincing people that auto updates aren’t worth the trouble making themselves less secure in order to stop being nagged or “updated” to broken drivers in a Windows circle of life that is more of a nuisance than it ever has been.
Now, they break browsers in order to “protect the children”. Meanwhile the browser users think it’s Chrome or Safari that are broken, and when they find out MS did it intentionally, they’ll stop using the children’s filter because usage will become too complicated.
They can’t make a good decision to save their lives.
…and that’s why my kids have Chromebooks…
…and that’s why my kids have Chromebooks…
…and that’s why my kids have Chromebooks…
…and that’s why my kids have Chromebooks…
It’s just an excuse for ms.
It’s just an excuse for ms.
It’s just an excuse for ms.
It’s just an excuse for ms.
Always hate on for MS these days and while I am not the biggest fan, it is a case of damned if you do or damned if you don’t. Another headline could have been “MS family settings still allowed my kids access to porn”. Family settings are only as good as the apps they control.
Always hate on for MS these days and while I am not the biggest fan, it is a case of damned if you do or damned if you don’t. Another headline could have been “MS family settings still allowed my kids access to porn”. Family settings are only as good as the apps they control.
Always hate on for MS these days and while I am not the biggest fan, it is a case of damned if you do or damned if you don’t. Another headline could have been “MS family settings still allowed my kids access to porn”. Family settings are only as good as the apps they control.
Always hate on for MS these days and while I am not the biggest fan, it is a case of damned if you do or damned if you don’t. Another headline could have been “MS family settings still allowed my kids access to porn”. Family settings are only as good as the apps they control.
That is a good point Matt Alexander, although Microsoft didn’t have to outright ban other browsers. They could instead post messages and warnings about using the other browsers and leave restricting access an as option not a default, or they could put pressure on the software publishers to up their game and respect the security settings Microsoft are trying to impose. In fact, I am pretty sure they could restrict access to potentially harmful sites anyway. It is there operating system after all.
That is a good point Matt Alexander, although Microsoft didn’t have to outright ban other browsers. They could instead post messages and warnings about using the other browsers and leave restricting access an as option not a default, or they could put pressure on the software publishers to up their game and respect the security settings Microsoft are trying to impose. In fact, I am pretty sure they could restrict access to potentially harmful sites anyway. It is there operating system after all.
That is a good point Matt Alexander, although Microsoft didn’t have to outright ban other browsers. They could instead post messages and warnings about using the other browsers and leave restricting access an as option not a default, or they could put pressure on the software publishers to up their game and respect the security settings Microsoft are trying to impose. In fact, I am pretty sure they could restrict access to potentially harmful sites anyway. It is there operating system after all.
That is a good point Matt Alexander, although Microsoft didn’t have to outright ban other browsers. They could instead post messages and warnings about using the other browsers and leave restricting access an as option not a default, or they could put pressure on the software publishers to up their game and respect the security settings Microsoft are trying to impose. In fact, I am pretty sure they could restrict access to potentially harmful sites anyway. It is there operating system after all.
get your ass ready for another class action lawsuit microsfoft.
get your ass ready for another class action lawsuit microsfoft.
get your ass ready for another class action lawsuit microsfoft.
get your ass ready for another class action lawsuit microsfoft.
Alan Stainer How can you guarantee that the parent will see and acknowledge the warning vs the kids? Maybe emailing the primary account holder may work, not sure. I just see it as they are simply taking a position on the matter which likely the users of this particular feature may actually see as proactive and a benefit.
The people that seem to be complaining are those who likely don’t have the feature enabled. Having to expressly opt in to circumvent the family controls (vs implied consent simply because a user installed an app) seems on the surface to be a reasonable thing to do. It would be good to actually get some non technical parent to chime in whether they see this as some sort of anti-competitive move in the browser war or actually beneficial to their particular use case. I am just guessing but I would think the latter. My kids are too young still and I will likely have it locked down much more than just windows family controls but I am having a hard time with the MS bashing on this one (although I am no stranger to MS bashing :D )
Alan Stainer How can you guarantee that the parent will see and acknowledge the warning vs the kids? Maybe emailing the primary account holder may work, not sure. I just see it as they are simply taking a position on the matter which likely the users of this particular feature may actually see as proactive and a benefit.
The people that seem to be complaining are those who likely don’t have the feature enabled. Having to expressly opt in to circumvent the family controls (vs implied consent simply because a user installed an app) seems on the surface to be a reasonable thing to do. It would be good to actually get some non technical parent to chime in whether they see this as some sort of anti-competitive move in the browser war or actually beneficial to their particular use case. I am just guessing but I would think the latter. My kids are too young still and I will likely have it locked down much more than just windows family controls but I am having a hard time with the MS bashing on this one (although I am no stranger to MS bashing :D )
Alan Stainer How can you guarantee that the parent will see and acknowledge the warning vs the kids? Maybe emailing the primary account holder may work, not sure. I just see it as they are simply taking a position on the matter which likely the users of this particular feature may actually see as proactive and a benefit.
The people that seem to be complaining are those who likely don’t have the feature enabled. Having to expressly opt in to circumvent the family controls (vs implied consent simply because a user installed an app) seems on the surface to be a reasonable thing to do. It would be good to actually get some non technical parent to chime in whether they see this as some sort of anti-competitive move in the browser war or actually beneficial to their particular use case. I am just guessing but I would think the latter. My kids are too young still and I will likely have it locked down much more than just windows family controls but I am having a hard time with the MS bashing on this one (although I am no stranger to MS bashing :D )
Alan Stainer How can you guarantee that the parent will see and acknowledge the warning vs the kids? Maybe emailing the primary account holder may work, not sure. I just see it as they are simply taking a position on the matter which likely the users of this particular feature may actually see as proactive and a benefit.
The people that seem to be complaining are those who likely don’t have the feature enabled. Having to expressly opt in to circumvent the family controls (vs implied consent simply because a user installed an app) seems on the surface to be a reasonable thing to do. It would be good to actually get some non technical parent to chime in whether they see this as some sort of anti-competitive move in the browser war or actually beneficial to their particular use case. I am just guessing but I would think the latter. My kids are too young still and I will likely have it locked down much more than just windows family controls but I am having a hard time with the MS bashing on this one (although I am no stranger to MS bashing :D )
There are no guarantees Matt Alexander The best way to stop children accessing content that is inappropriate has and always will be supervision by a responsible adult.
Whether or not something is blocked or banned is not really the issue here. It is the lack of choice that consumers are being given. Yes, you can whitelist a browser, but the option to do that should be big and bold and obvious, not buried away in the settings somewhere that most people won’t think to look.
There are no guarantees Matt Alexander The best way to stop children accessing content that is inappropriate has and always will be supervision by a responsible adult.
Whether or not something is blocked or banned is not really the issue here. It is the lack of choice that consumers are being given. Yes, you can whitelist a browser, but the option to do that should be big and bold and obvious, not buried away in the settings somewhere that most people won’t think to look.
There are no guarantees Matt Alexander The best way to stop children accessing content that is inappropriate has and always will be supervision by a responsible adult.
Whether or not something is blocked or banned is not really the issue here. It is the lack of choice that consumers are being given. Yes, you can whitelist a browser, but the option to do that should be big and bold and obvious, not buried away in the settings somewhere that most people won’t think to look.
There are no guarantees Matt Alexander The best way to stop children accessing content that is inappropriate has and always will be supervision by a responsible adult.
Whether or not something is blocked or banned is not really the issue here. It is the lack of choice that consumers are being given. Yes, you can whitelist a browser, but the option to do that should be big and bold and obvious, not buried away in the settings somewhere that most people won’t think to look.
I just ran a little test on Micro$oft consumer ‘choice’ Alan Stainer just to see what they came up with for Windows 10 for Mail.
Up to XP and possibly beyond, clicking on a ‘mailto’ link would bring up Outlook and require the creation of an account to use it.
So for Windows 10, they have changed that a bit. Click on the option to use mail for a mailto and get presented with a disguised Micro$oft page demanding that I signup for an account. Err, no thank you and goodbye!
So another one where Micro$oft attempts to restrict consumer choice.
I just ran a little test on Micro$oft consumer ‘choice’ Alan Stainer just to see what they came up with for Windows 10 for Mail.
Up to XP and possibly beyond, clicking on a ‘mailto’ link would bring up Outlook and require the creation of an account to use it.
So for Windows 10, they have changed that a bit. Click on the option to use mail for a mailto and get presented with a disguised Micro$oft page demanding that I signup for an account. Err, no thank you and goodbye!
So another one where Micro$oft attempts to restrict consumer choice.
I just ran a little test on Micro$oft consumer ‘choice’ Alan Stainer just to see what they came up with for Windows 10 for Mail.
Up to XP and possibly beyond, clicking on a ‘mailto’ link would bring up Outlook and require the creation of an account to use it.
So for Windows 10, they have changed that a bit. Click on the option to use mail for a mailto and get presented with a disguised Micro$oft page demanding that I signup for an account. Err, no thank you and goodbye!
So another one where Micro$oft attempts to restrict consumer choice.
I just ran a little test on Micro$oft consumer ‘choice’ Alan Stainer just to see what they came up with for Windows 10 for Mail.
Up to XP and possibly beyond, clicking on a ‘mailto’ link would bring up Outlook and require the creation of an account to use it.
So for Windows 10, they have changed that a bit. Click on the option to use mail for a mailto and get presented with a disguised Micro$oft page demanding that I signup for an account. Err, no thank you and goodbye!
So another one where Micro$oft attempts to restrict consumer choice.
Alan Stainer I just think this is overblown. As any parent knows, you can’t be on top of your kids 100%. Sometimes more is more. I’m gonna make something up here but how many people use Windows 10 and have this enabled anyway? It’s likely a fraction of a %, so being a market share grab for edge is likely not going to be successful.
Alan Stainer I just think this is overblown. As any parent knows, you can’t be on top of your kids 100%. Sometimes more is more. I’m gonna make something up here but how many people use Windows 10 and have this enabled anyway? It’s likely a fraction of a %, so being a market share grab for edge is likely not going to be successful.
Alan Stainer I just think this is overblown. As any parent knows, you can’t be on top of your kids 100%. Sometimes more is more. I’m gonna make something up here but how many people use Windows 10 and have this enabled anyway? It’s likely a fraction of a %, so being a market share grab for edge is likely not going to be successful.
Alan Stainer I just think this is overblown. As any parent knows, you can’t be on top of your kids 100%. Sometimes more is more. I’m gonna make something up here but how many people use Windows 10 and have this enabled anyway? It’s likely a fraction of a %, so being a market share grab for edge is likely not going to be successful.
You are probably right Matt Alexander Also it may well be over blowing it a bit, but sadly Microsoft’s previous performance with Windows 10 and Edge have coloured opinions somewhat.
You are probably right Matt Alexander Also it may well be over blowing it a bit, but sadly Microsoft’s previous performance with Windows 10 and Edge have coloured opinions somewhat.
You are probably right Matt Alexander Also it may well be over blowing it a bit, but sadly Microsoft’s previous performance with Windows 10 and Edge have coloured opinions somewhat.
You are probably right Matt Alexander Also it may well be over blowing it a bit, but sadly Microsoft’s previous performance with Windows 10 and Edge have coloured opinions somewhat.
Do people still use it?
Do people still use it?
Do people still use it?
Do people still use it?
Alan Stainer not defending them for sure. The scroggle stuff and many other tactics have been horrid. I feel a bit like they had their day in the sun and now clinging to some poor gimmicks but glad there are competitors. I just feel this isn’t cut and dry, and crucify ms. Happily do so for deserving things. Cheers
Alan Stainer not defending them for sure. The scroggle stuff and many other tactics have been horrid. I feel a bit like they had their day in the sun and now clinging to some poor gimmicks but glad there are competitors. I just feel this isn’t cut and dry, and crucify ms. Happily do so for deserving things. Cheers
Alan Stainer not defending them for sure. The scroggle stuff and many other tactics have been horrid. I feel a bit like they had their day in the sun and now clinging to some poor gimmicks but glad there are competitors. I just feel this isn’t cut and dry, and crucify ms. Happily do so for deserving things. Cheers
Alan Stainer not defending them for sure. The scroggle stuff and many other tactics have been horrid. I feel a bit like they had their day in the sun and now clinging to some poor gimmicks but glad there are competitors. I just feel this isn’t cut and dry, and crucify ms. Happily do so for deserving things. Cheers
G+ suggested this collection to me. Not sure why it’s called Software. You might wanna rename it to Bash Microsoft or something. It’s more appropriate.
G+ suggested this collection to me. Not sure why it’s called Software. You might wanna rename it to Bash Microsoft or something. It’s more appropriate.
G+ suggested this collection to me. Not sure why it’s called Software. You might wanna rename it to Bash Microsoft or something. It’s more appropriate.
G+ suggested this collection to me. Not sure why it’s called Software. You might wanna rename it to Bash Microsoft or something. It’s more appropriate.
Hubert Dumas you are free to interpret things how you wish. However, out of the last 40 or so posts, less than half have been about Microsoft specifically.
Hubert Dumas you are free to interpret things how you wish. However, out of the last 40 or so posts, less than half have been about Microsoft specifically.
Hubert Dumas you are free to interpret things how you wish. However, out of the last 40 or so posts, less than half have been about Microsoft specifically.
Hubert Dumas you are free to interpret things how you wish. However, out of the last 40 or so posts, less than half have been about Microsoft specifically.