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If you thought forced Windows 10 upgrades was a bit of a joke, think again

June 3, 2016 by Alan Stainer

If you thought forced Windows 10 upgrades was a bit of a joke, think again

Microsoft really should be ashamed. Their employees really need to do some serious soul searching right now.

Originally shared by Christopher Gaul

Thanks Microsoft!

It really annoys me that Microsoft fanboys and apologists act like these aggressive Windows 10 upgrade tactics are no big deal and people should stop complaining about it simply because it doesn’t bother them. Well guess what. It does bother, and even harm, other people and their opinion is at least as valid. If not more.

Via Hugh McVea​

#Windows10

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4mcdon/i_live_in_the_central_african_bush_we_pay_for/

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  1. Francis Anderson says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    It’s completely irresponsible of Microsoft to simply expect everybody to have free unlimited internet.

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  2. Francis Anderson says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    It’s completely irresponsible of Microsoft to simply expect everybody to have free unlimited internet.

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  3. Francis Anderson says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    It’s completely irresponsible of Microsoft to simply expect everybody to have free unlimited internet.

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  4. Francis Anderson says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    It’s completely irresponsible of Microsoft to simply expect everybody to have free unlimited internet.

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  5. Alan Stainer says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Francis Anderson yup and in the case of the anti poaching rangers, it could have live threatening consequences.

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  6. Alan Stainer says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Francis Anderson yup and in the case of the anti poaching rangers, it could have live threatening consequences.

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  7. Alan Stainer says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Francis Anderson yup and in the case of the anti poaching rangers, it could have live threatening consequences.

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  8. Alan Stainer says

    June 3, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Francis Anderson yup and in the case of the anti poaching rangers, it could have live threatening consequences.

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  9. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 6:20 am

    The poor way that windows handles updates is one of the reasons I switched to linux  as my OS. It may be that I’ve come from an era where people would put the effort in to understanding a product before using it but I have no sympathy for the computer illiterate. When you buy a product like a car, computer, phone etc. You learn how to use it. If you buy a phone and start calling other countries while in roaming mode you’ll rack up a very expensive bill, this is not the fault of the service provider as the user should understand the product before using it. The internet is no different these are not undocumented issues neither is the way to circumvent such issues. Windows comes with the ability to set a connection as metered, to stop updates for people in this very situation. Also all updates including to windows ten can be disabled. Android and OSX also does this (download updates by default without user intervention) as do many other products that connect to the internet, this is not unexpected behaviour and anyone in charge of using technology should have educated themselves on that technology. The windows ten update that activates by default is an absolute dick move but it’s not sneaky and windows doesn’t secretly download files. The user is merely ignorant.

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  10. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 6:20 am

    The poor way that windows handles updates is one of the reasons I switched to linux  as my OS. It may be that I’ve come from an era where people would put the effort in to understanding a product before using it but I have no sympathy for the computer illiterate. When you buy a product like a car, computer, phone etc. You learn how to use it. If you buy a phone and start calling other countries while in roaming mode you’ll rack up a very expensive bill, this is not the fault of the service provider as the user should understand the product before using it. The internet is no different these are not undocumented issues neither is the way to circumvent such issues. Windows comes with the ability to set a connection as metered, to stop updates for people in this very situation. Also all updates including to windows ten can be disabled. Android and OSX also does this (download updates by default without user intervention) as do many other products that connect to the internet, this is not unexpected behaviour and anyone in charge of using technology should have educated themselves on that technology. The windows ten update that activates by default is an absolute dick move but it’s not sneaky and windows doesn’t secretly download files. The user is merely ignorant.

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  11. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 6:20 am

    The poor way that windows handles updates is one of the reasons I switched to linux  as my OS. It may be that I’ve come from an era where people would put the effort in to understanding a product before using it but I have no sympathy for the computer illiterate. When you buy a product like a car, computer, phone etc. You learn how to use it. If you buy a phone and start calling other countries while in roaming mode you’ll rack up a very expensive bill, this is not the fault of the service provider as the user should understand the product before using it. The internet is no different these are not undocumented issues neither is the way to circumvent such issues. Windows comes with the ability to set a connection as metered, to stop updates for people in this very situation. Also all updates including to windows ten can be disabled. Android and OSX also does this (download updates by default without user intervention) as do many other products that connect to the internet, this is not unexpected behaviour and anyone in charge of using technology should have educated themselves on that technology. The windows ten update that activates by default is an absolute dick move but it’s not sneaky and windows doesn’t secretly download files. The user is merely ignorant.

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  12. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 6:20 am

    The poor way that windows handles updates is one of the reasons I switched to linux  as my OS. It may be that I’ve come from an era where people would put the effort in to understanding a product before using it but I have no sympathy for the computer illiterate. When you buy a product like a car, computer, phone etc. You learn how to use it. If you buy a phone and start calling other countries while in roaming mode you’ll rack up a very expensive bill, this is not the fault of the service provider as the user should understand the product before using it. The internet is no different these are not undocumented issues neither is the way to circumvent such issues. Windows comes with the ability to set a connection as metered, to stop updates for people in this very situation. Also all updates including to windows ten can be disabled. Android and OSX also does this (download updates by default without user intervention) as do many other products that connect to the internet, this is not unexpected behaviour and anyone in charge of using technology should have educated themselves on that technology. The windows ten update that activates by default is an absolute dick move but it’s not sneaky and windows doesn’t secretly download files. The user is merely ignorant.

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  13. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:14 am

    Phil Bob the problem is one of choice (or lack of) and deliberately using deceptive tactics. Even computer literate people are getting themselves caught out by the Windows 10 upgrade.

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  14. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:14 am

    Phil Bob the problem is one of choice (or lack of) and deliberately using deceptive tactics. Even computer literate people are getting themselves caught out by the Windows 10 upgrade.

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  15. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:14 am

    Phil Bob the problem is one of choice (or lack of) and deliberately using deceptive tactics. Even computer literate people are getting themselves caught out by the Windows 10 upgrade.

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  16. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:14 am

    Phil Bob the problem is one of choice (or lack of) and deliberately using deceptive tactics. Even computer literate people are getting themselves caught out by the Windows 10 upgrade.

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  17. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Alan Stainer

    If they’re getting caught out by well known, standard MS Operating system behaviour then they’re not computer literate.

    Bad design and poor decision making doesn’t require deception

    The problem is, people seem to think that turning on a computer and logging in to facebook while ignoring important aspects of operating system maintenance and behaviour can be considered ‘literate’

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  18. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Alan Stainer

    If they’re getting caught out by well known, standard MS Operating system behaviour then they’re not computer literate.

    Bad design and poor decision making doesn’t require deception

    The problem is, people seem to think that turning on a computer and logging in to facebook while ignoring important aspects of operating system maintenance and behaviour can be considered ‘literate’

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  19. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Alan Stainer

    If they’re getting caught out by well known, standard MS Operating system behaviour then they’re not computer literate.

    Bad design and poor decision making doesn’t require deception

    The problem is, people seem to think that turning on a computer and logging in to facebook while ignoring important aspects of operating system maintenance and behaviour can be considered ‘literate’

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  20. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Alan Stainer

    If they’re getting caught out by well known, standard MS Operating system behaviour then they’re not computer literate.

    Bad design and poor decision making doesn’t require deception

    The problem is, people seem to think that turning on a computer and logging in to facebook while ignoring important aspects of operating system maintenance and behaviour can be considered ‘literate’

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  21. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:52 am

    …That last bit wasn’t a dig at you by the way, I mean people in general

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  22. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:52 am

    …That last bit wasn’t a dig at you by the way, I mean people in general

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  23. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:52 am

    …That last bit wasn’t a dig at you by the way, I mean people in general

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  24. Phil Bob says

    June 4, 2016 at 7:52 am

    …That last bit wasn’t a dig at you by the way, I mean people in general

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  25. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 8:36 am

    Phil Bob Microsoft aren’t using standard operating system behaviour though. If you close or otherwise dismiss the upgrade prompt, they count that as accepting it and yet it clearly states in Microsoft’s own guidelines that specific action should always be counted as cancel. As I said, they are using deceptive tactics and it is even catching out tech savvy people.

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  26. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 8:36 am

    Phil Bob Microsoft aren’t using standard operating system behaviour though. If you close or otherwise dismiss the upgrade prompt, they count that as accepting it and yet it clearly states in Microsoft’s own guidelines that specific action should always be counted as cancel. As I said, they are using deceptive tactics and it is even catching out tech savvy people.

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  27. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 8:36 am

    Phil Bob Microsoft aren’t using standard operating system behaviour though. If you close or otherwise dismiss the upgrade prompt, they count that as accepting it and yet it clearly states in Microsoft’s own guidelines that specific action should always be counted as cancel. As I said, they are using deceptive tactics and it is even catching out tech savvy people.

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  28. Alan Stainer says

    June 4, 2016 at 8:36 am

    Phil Bob Microsoft aren’t using standard operating system behaviour though. If you close or otherwise dismiss the upgrade prompt, they count that as accepting it and yet it clearly states in Microsoft’s own guidelines that specific action should always be counted as cancel. As I said, they are using deceptive tactics and it is even catching out tech savvy people.

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  29. Tom Kemp says

    June 7, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Disgraceful MS practice.

    Offering – even encouraging – the update is one thing, but making the X in the corner count as agreement is totally wrong.

    Lots of people have critical machines with software that will not run on Windows 10, so it is essential they do not get upgraded.

    Incidentally, if MS really wanted people to use Windows 10, why do they make it so difficult to Activate it, especially making it well-nigh impossible to get the telephone activation method to show up?

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  30. Tom Kemp says

    June 7, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Disgraceful MS practice.

    Offering – even encouraging – the update is one thing, but making the X in the corner count as agreement is totally wrong.

    Lots of people have critical machines with software that will not run on Windows 10, so it is essential they do not get upgraded.

    Incidentally, if MS really wanted people to use Windows 10, why do they make it so difficult to Activate it, especially making it well-nigh impossible to get the telephone activation method to show up?

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  31. Tom Kemp says

    June 7, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Disgraceful MS practice.

    Offering – even encouraging – the update is one thing, but making the X in the corner count as agreement is totally wrong.

    Lots of people have critical machines with software that will not run on Windows 10, so it is essential they do not get upgraded.

    Incidentally, if MS really wanted people to use Windows 10, why do they make it so difficult to Activate it, especially making it well-nigh impossible to get the telephone activation method to show up?

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  32. Tom Kemp says

    June 7, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Disgraceful MS practice.

    Offering – even encouraging – the update is one thing, but making the X in the corner count as agreement is totally wrong.

    Lots of people have critical machines with software that will not run on Windows 10, so it is essential they do not get upgraded.

    Incidentally, if MS really wanted people to use Windows 10, why do they make it so difficult to Activate it, especially making it well-nigh impossible to get the telephone activation method to show up?

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