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Avoid falling into scammers’ trap

September 1, 2015 by Alan Stainer

Avoid falling into scammers’ trap

Falling prey to scammers is never nice. Let’s face it, they are criminals plain and simple and they do not have any empathy for you.

http://www.wscountytimes.co.uk/news/columnists/avoid-falling-into-scammers-trap-1-6933186

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  1. Ian Dixon says

    September 1, 2015 at 10:52 am

    Alan Stainer I’ve seen exactly what you describe happen.

    I’m sitting at my computer at one end of the room when my eldest gets a phone call just like you describe. He then starts to give them the details they want. He didn’t get beyond the first sentence before I grabbed the phone and got rid of the scammer.

    One of the problems though is that the scammers are only copying things that perfectly legit organisations also do. HMRC is a good example as they will sometimes phone and ask for various personal details before proceeding. Enough info for a bit of identity theft.

    What I have always failed to understand is why these organisations expect us to provide information to prove our identity yet they never do the reverse and supply information to prove their identity.

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  2. Alan Stainer says

    September 1, 2015 at 10:56 am

    Yep, it is a problem Ian Dixon. The old gent I helped out said they sounded legit, like they were in a busy office or call centre.

    It is entirely conceivable that they are in a call centre, just that they are scamming under the noses of their law abiding bosses. Who can say?

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  3. Alan Stainer says

    September 1, 2015 at 11:19 am

    Purely by chance, they are talking about cold callers on Radio 4 right now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b067x3w1

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  4. Nicholas Berry says

    September 3, 2015 at 8:13 am

    Don’t forget to mention, to not use the same phone to call a legitimate phone number, as the scammers can keep the line open after you’ve hung up.

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  5. Alan Stainer says

    September 3, 2015 at 8:53 am

    That is a very good point.

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  6. Ian Dixon says

    September 3, 2015 at 11:55 am

    Nicholas Berry 

    Just dug out another thread on scammers and it re-iterates what you say.

    This is the advice from da boys in blue

    If you think you have been a victim of fraud, hang up the phone and wait five minutes to clear the line as fraudsters sometimes keep the line open. Then call your bank or card issuer to report the fraud. Where it is possible use a different phone line to make the phone call.

    Another trick to use is to first call a friend because if you get the scammer rather than the friend then it becomes clear that they have pulled th ‘line open’ trick.

    Bit more for you all

    To report a fraud and receive a police crime reference number, call Action Fraud on 0300 123 2040 or use our online fraud reporting tool.

    Page this is all coming from is http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/news/alert-watch-out-for-council-tax-scam-aug15

    Notice the police.uk bit of the url.

    It’s from the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau which is PC Plod only this is the updated arm who understand digital crime.

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  7. Nicholas Berry says

    September 3, 2015 at 11:57 am

    Ian Dixon Good advice for all.

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  8. Alan Stainer says

    September 3, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    Ian Dixon​ would you mind if I post that on the website later? Can’t do it right now as I am out.

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  9. Ian Dixon says

    September 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    Post away Alan Stainer 

    If between what me, you and Nicholas Berry have said on this was to get one scammer stopped in their tracks then it is worthwhile. 

    Spreading it further may well get a few more of them so go ahead.

    You may also want to include this page

    http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/support-and-prevention/protect-yourself-from-fraud

    Most of what it says is really obvious but it really does highlight what the scammers try to pull off.

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